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I would have loved this. I had been fine my entire life until one day I started feeling panic and subsequently had several panic attacks that week and developed

I would have loved this. I had been fine my entire life until one day I started feeling panic and subsequently had several panic attacks that week and developed the related agoraphobia. It would have been great to see what biomarkers had changed and ideas on where this suddenly came from. The current treatment doesn’t care about the underline reasons as much as immediately giving you a SSRI.

Llamamoe 4y ago
Can you think of ANYTHING unusual around that time, physical or mental?
- drewbitt 4y ago
  I was taking a lot of supplements - basics like magnesium and fish oil, all the way to choline, some mushrooms, amino acids, EGCG etc. Nothing crazy or illegal but certainly more than the average person takes. Unfortunately even after stopping for months the panic disorder didn’t go away. Otherwise at that time work was easy and my life was not stressful. It’s a mystery.
  - jokowueu 4y ago
    It was probably the choline . Take a look at an SGB shot if you are still dealing with these issues
  - Cthulhu_ 4y ago
    Almost like messing with your own biochemistry caused a change in your biochemistry. I'm glad you moved away from it; nobody needs supplements if they don't have an underlying medical condition and eat normally, no matter what the supplement pushers try to tell you. Also, you mention mushrooms, is that the magic kind? That'll mess with your brain chemistry for sure.
    - drewbitt 4y ago
      Not the magic kind
  - Llamamoe 4y ago
    Yeah taking random psychoactive chemicals in untested combinations can do that to you, lol. It always amazes me how uncritical people are of "natural" drugs, as if they're somehow implicitly safe and exempt from interactions, unlike "synthetic" drugs.
LoganDark 4y ago
> The current treatment doesn’t care about the underline reasons as much as immediately giving you a SSRI. I had panic and anxiety a lot, it turned out to be ADHD. My brain wasn't getting enough stimulation from reward and good feelings so it apparently supplemented it with anxiety and bad feelings. It's also where my OCD came from. Once I started on ADHD meds, all my depression, anxiety, and a lot of OCD just... went away. So yeah, I also wish more doctors would consider things other than SSRIs.
- TurkishPoptart 4y ago
  can I ask what you take for this? I'm taking ADHD meds and they were working for maybe a month or two (long-acting) and now only the short-acting meds work, but there's national shortages and I can't find it anymore. Simply sucks!
  - eyelidlessness 4y ago
    Can’t speak for OP, but I can say a few years in that med tolerance builds up. Before the shortages I had a pretty good routine with my dr switching every 3-6 months. Even for almost identical meds, the slight chemical or metabolic change has been helpful. With shortages? Idk good luck :(
  - LoganDark 4y ago
    I take dextroamphetamine sulfate XR, but I've only been taking it for around 3 weeks so I can't say anything about making it past the 1-2 month mark yet. I can say however that the brand matters, because accidentally taking the wrong brand put me in a hypertensive crisis for 2 days straight until I realized what was going on. (I would have posted this reply around 10 minutes after yours, but I got hit by "You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks.". Apparently this means a moderator reviewed my posting history and thought I was spamming)
- eyelidlessness 4y ago
  I also discovered that treating my ADHD roughly solved my (chronic) depression, and made anxiety manageable. My anxiety was far past debilitating by this point, my life had basically collapsed. Kind of amusingly, my executive function improvements aren’t nearly as pronounced as most earlier diagnosees tend to report. I’m pretty much the same functioning-superhero-or-hyperfocused-trainwreck I always was. I just get a whole lot less anxiety from existing as that. Anyway, diagnosis and meds to treat it saved my life. Didn’t make me a lick more productive or better at controlling focus. They just let me be kind of at home in my body and brain and environment.
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Llamamoe 4y ago

Can you think of ANYTHING unusual around that time, physical or mental?

drewbitt 4y ago
I was taking a lot of supplements - basics like magnesium and fish oil, all the way to choline, some mushrooms, amino acids, EGCG etc. Nothing crazy or illegal but certainly more than the average person takes. Unfortunately even after stopping for months the panic disorder didn’t go away. Otherwise at that time work was easy and my life was not stressful. It’s a mystery.
- jokowueu 4y ago
  It was probably the choline . Take a look at an SGB shot if you are still dealing with these issues
- Cthulhu_ 4y ago
  Almost like messing with your own biochemistry caused a change in your biochemistry. I'm glad you moved away from it; nobody needs supplements if they don't have an underlying medical condition and eat normally, no matter what the supplement pushers try to tell you. Also, you mention mushrooms, is that the magic kind? That'll mess with your brain chemistry for sure.
  - drewbitt 4y ago
    Not the magic kind
- Llamamoe 4y ago
  Yeah taking random psychoactive chemicals in untested combinations can do that to you, lol. It always amazes me how uncritical people are of "natural" drugs, as if they're somehow implicitly safe and exempt from interactions, unlike "synthetic" drugs.

LoganDark 4y ago

> The current treatment doesn’t care about the underline reasons as much as immediately giving you a SSRI. I had panic and anxiety a lot, it turned out to be ADHD. My brain wasn't getting enough stimulation from reward and good feelings so it apparently supplemented it with anxiety and bad feelings. It's also where my OCD came from. Once I started on ADHD meds, all my depression, anxiety, and a lot of OCD just... went away. So yeah, I also wish more doctors would consider things other than SSRIs.

TurkishPoptart 4y ago
can I ask what you take for this? I'm taking ADHD meds and they were working for maybe a month or two (long-acting) and now only the short-acting meds work, but there's national shortages and I can't find it anymore. Simply sucks!
- eyelidlessness 4y ago
  Can’t speak for OP, but I can say a few years in that med tolerance builds up. Before the shortages I had a pretty good routine with my dr switching every 3-6 months. Even for almost identical meds, the slight chemical or metabolic change has been helpful. With shortages? Idk good luck :(
- LoganDark 4y ago
  I take dextroamphetamine sulfate XR, but I've only been taking it for around 3 weeks so I can't say anything about making it past the 1-2 month mark yet. I can say however that the brand matters, because accidentally taking the wrong brand put me in a hypertensive crisis for 2 days straight until I realized what was going on. (I would have posted this reply around 10 minutes after yours, but I got hit by "You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks.". Apparently this means a moderator reviewed my posting history and thought I was spamming)
eyelidlessness 4y ago
I also discovered that treating my ADHD roughly solved my (chronic) depression, and made anxiety manageable. My anxiety was far past debilitating by this point, my life had basically collapsed. Kind of amusingly, my executive function improvements aren’t nearly as pronounced as most earlier diagnosees tend to report. I’m pretty much the same functioning-superhero-or-hyperfocused-trainwreck I always was. I just get a whole lot less anxiety from existing as that. Anyway, diagnosis and meds to treat it saved my life. Didn’t make me a lick more productive or better at controlling focus. They just let me be kind of at home in my body and brain and environment.

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