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I might not be articulating my point super well since this is HN and I hate typing long drawout thoughts on boards. That being said I understand the situations

I might not be articulating my point super well since this is HN and I hate typing long drawout thoughts on boards. That being said I understand the situations are different but to me, the sentiment still feels like it should be applied? On one hand you have the FTC fining a company for violations of data sharing, which I am assuming of the one of the concerns is patient privacy. Which to me, seems like a net good thing. Again I would prefer it to be more, but better then not doing nothing at all I suppose. On the other hand, you have one giant company with access to mounds of consumer data purchasing even more sensitive healthcare data without even a blink of the eye. Why was this not challenged? Why fine one company? I might be overthinking it but it seems like a misalignment of priorities. The point of the FTC is to protect consumers, shouldn't both have been investigated? I guess that was the point I was trying to make. Idk, I feel like I'm just rambling at this point.

8ytecoder 4y ago
(Someone more knowledgeable should correct me if I’m wrong) But my basic understanding of LLCs, subsidiaries …etc is to create boundaries with parent company - usually to shield the parent company. I really doubt if what you’re claiming is true that Amazon has access to one medical data, they’ll have any form of protection at all. Hypothetically speaking, one medical did something horrid and so disastrous that they’re going to have to pay billions of dollars, Amazon would just wind down that unit and not suffer any major consequences. How would this be allowed if there’s no boundary? Edit: so I looked it up https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/23/amazon-one-medical-deal-gives-it-access-to-my-most-personal-info.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/23/amazon-one-medical-deal-give... “As required by law, Amazon will never share One Medical customers’ personal health information outside of One Medical for advertising or marketing purposes of other Amazon products and services without clear permission from the customer,” an Amazon spokesperson said in an email. “Should the deal close, One Medical customers’ HIPAA Protected Health Information will be handled separately from all other Amazon businesses, as required by law.” Basically, like I thought, they can’t commingle or share data between the two companies. But if something being clearly illegal isn’t enough to convince people (or even the journalist), then that’s a different much bigger issue. Also this: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/subsidiary.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/subsidiary.asp A subsidiary is an independent company that is more than 50% owned by another firm—called the parent company or holding company. Subsidiaries are separate and distinct legal entities from their parent companies.
- ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
  > Edit: so I looked it up > https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/23/amazon-one-medical-deal-gives-it-access-to-my-most-personal-info.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/23/amazon-one-medical-deal-give... > > “As required by law, Amazon will never share One Medical customers’ personal health information outside of One Medical for advertising or marketing purposes of other Amazon products and services without clear permission from the customer,” an Amazon spokesperson said in an email. “Should the deal close, One Medical customers’ HIPAA Protected Health Information will be handled separately from all other Amazon businesses, as required by law.” > Basically, like I thought, they can’t commingle or share data between the two companies. Unfortunately, that's not at all what it says. Amazon has included so many qualifiers that they are disclaiming only a very specific subset of data transfer. I invite you to read it again, word by word and clause by clause.
- JohnFen 4y ago
  > Amazon will never share One Medical customers’ personal health information outside of One Medical for advertising or marketing purposes of other Amazon products and services without clear permission from the customer Lots of loopholes in there. But even if there weren't, doesn't it feel dangerous to take Amazon at their word with this?
mfer 4y ago
> the sentiment still feels like it should be applied The FTC doesn't operate based on sentiment. Even if the people who work on this have the same feelings they need to operate within laws.

8ytecoder 4y ago

(Someone more knowledgeable should correct me if I’m wrong) But my basic understanding of LLCs, subsidiaries …etc is to create boundaries with parent company - usually to shield the parent company. I really doubt if what you’re claiming is true that Amazon has access to one medical data, they’ll have any form of protection at all. Hypothetically speaking, one medical did something horrid and so disastrous that they’re going to have to pay billions of dollars, Amazon would just wind down that unit and not suffer any major consequences. How would this be allowed if there’s no boundary? Edit: so I looked it up https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/23/amazon-one-medical-deal-gives-it-access-to-my-most-personal-info.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/23/amazon-one-medical-deal-give... “As required by law, Amazon will never share One Medical customers’ personal health information outside of One Medical for advertising or marketing purposes of other Amazon products and services without clear permission from the customer,” an Amazon spokesperson said in an email. “Should the deal close, One Medical customers’ HIPAA Protected Health Information will be handled separately from all other Amazon businesses, as required by law.” Basically, like I thought, they can’t commingle or share data between the two companies. But if something being clearly illegal isn’t enough to convince people (or even the journalist), then that’s a different much bigger issue. Also this: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/subsidiary.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/subsidiary.asp A subsidiary is an independent company that is more than 50% owned by another firm—called the parent company or holding company. Subsidiaries are separate and distinct legal entities from their parent companies.

ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
> Edit: so I looked it up > https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/23/amazon-one-medical-deal-gives-it-access-to-my-most-personal-info.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/23/amazon-one-medical-deal-give... > > “As required by law, Amazon will never share One Medical customers’ personal health information outside of One Medical for advertising or marketing purposes of other Amazon products and services without clear permission from the customer,” an Amazon spokesperson said in an email. “Should the deal close, One Medical customers’ HIPAA Protected Health Information will be handled separately from all other Amazon businesses, as required by law.” > Basically, like I thought, they can’t commingle or share data between the two companies. Unfortunately, that's not at all what it says. Amazon has included so many qualifiers that they are disclaiming only a very specific subset of data transfer. I invite you to read it again, word by word and clause by clause.
JohnFen 4y ago
> Amazon will never share One Medical customers’ personal health information outside of One Medical for advertising or marketing purposes of other Amazon products and services without clear permission from the customer Lots of loopholes in there. But even if there weren't, doesn't it feel dangerous to take Amazon at their word with this?

mfer 4y ago

> the sentiment still feels like it should be applied The FTC doesn't operate based on sentiment. Even if the people who work on this have the same feelings they need to operate within laws.