> The orthoganility thesis is an unproven assumption that intelligence and goals are not corellated, meaning an intelligent being can pursue stupid goals. State

> The orthoganility thesis is an unproven assumption that intelligence and goals are not corellated, meaning an intelligent being can pursue stupid goals. States like that, it’s obviously wrong and laughable. To me it's obviously wrong when stated that way because 'stupid' is not an appropriate metric for goals. We may consider goals good or bad within our value system, but that has little do to with 'stupid' or 'intelligent.' e.g. a body builder may have a goal to get as ripped as possible, a VC to make as much money as possible, an ascetic to deny the flesh as much as possible. Which of these are stupid or intelligent goals? I don't think that's a question that makes sense. We may consider the goals of the Athenians (to expand their power) "worse" than the goals of the Melians (to be left alone)[0], but I don't see how they were "stupider." [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Melos#The_Melian_Dialogue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Melos#The_Melian_Dial...