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> Who people think we are is who we are May be true for extroverts, but as an introvert I don't give a cent about what random people think about me (which also

> Who people think we are is who we are May be true for extroverts, but as an introvert I don't give a cent about what random people think about me (which also explains why I do not use Instagram in the first place).

jasonlotito 4y ago
> I don't give a cent about what random people think about me But you did post about it.
- pb7 4y ago
  Not caring what people think doesn't mean he can't communicate with others. Introvert doesn't mean asocial.
  - bluefirebrand 4y ago
    However there is a certain kind of dissonance between deciding to publicly state "I don't care what you think" that sort of implies that they do care actually. It seems to me that people who truly do not care would just not engage in the first place?
    - nobody9999 4y ago
      >It seems to me that people who truly do not care would just not engage in the first place? That seems rather reductive given the topic here. I don't own an EV auto, or any auto for that matter. By your logic, I shouldn't engage in discussions about EV vs. ICE or anything to do with transportation. Is that correct?
      - prawn 4y ago
        If you said that you have no interest whatsoever in cars or electric cars, or no care for things tangentially related (impact on climate or similar).
        nobody9999 4y ago
        >If you said that you have no interest whatsoever in cars or electric cars, or no care for things tangentially related (impact on climate or similar). A fair point. However, that's not what GGP[1] said. They said: > Who people think we are is who we are May be true for extroverts, but as an introvert I don't give a cent about what random people think about me (which also explains why I do not use Instagram in the first place). I was responding to a reply[0] to that comment which asserted that: However there is a certain kind of dissonance between deciding to publicly state "I don't care what you think" that sort of implies that they do care actually. It seems to me that people who truly do not care would just not engage in the first place? As I said, I think that's pretty reductive. If you don't care what people on Instagram (or other social media) think, then not using such platforms makes perfect sense. Which is what GGP said. It seems reasonable to comment on the perceived "quest for likes" in a discussion about such things, even if you don't use those platforms and/or don't care what others think. I don't agree with GGP's point about being an introvert, as I'm an extrovert and I don't give a rat's ass about such things either. Nor do I use Instagram or other (mainstream) social media. Despite my (potentially) poor analogy, GP seems to be implying that if you state that you don't care about something, then you actually do care. Which, as I said, seems pretty reductive. And is also a poor use of logic. Please feel free to disagree and/or down-vote me, as I (at least as far as this, and most topics goes) don't really care what others think. Rather, I'm interested in discussion that sparks interesting exchanges. GP's shallow dismissal of GGP doesn't do that. In fact, it may well stifle discussion. And more's the pity. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35074290 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35074290 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35072080 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35072080 Edit: fixed formatting and prose. Clarified my response.
    - pixl97 4y ago
      Is there not a middle ground here? I don't think this is a binary situation where a person has to have no care at all, or it is their full obsession with life. Like, I don't care if you think my clothes are shit, and I don't keep up with the latest javascript flavor of the day. At the same time I don't want, at least the general public around me, thinking I'm some creepy hermit murderer so they don't rise up with torches and pitchforks either.
      - Godel_unicode 4y ago
        That’s what the comment you’re replying to is saying, you just used more words. You’re downstream from someone who asserted they are a hard 0 on the caring, which it sounds like you agree is… unlikely.
  - Godel_unicode 4y ago
    If you actually don’t care you wouldn’t post because it wouldn’t occur to you to. Edit: I find that most people who scream “I don’t care what you think” generally mean “I’m not influenced by what you think”. Which is an important difference, and helps explain getting red in the face about someone else’s opinion about which one don’t care.
    - GoblinSlayer 4y ago
      That's because delusion is ugly and thus invokes complaint, so yes sufficient ugliness has influence, but the influence of ugliness is invocation of complaint about ugliness, it doesn't define who you are.
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burnished 4y ago
This is all people. Calling yourself an introvert is a prime example in fact. Notice how the top level example didn't start with randos, but family members and close associates.
swatcoder 4y ago
Whatever personality trait you’re talking about is orthogonal to introversion/extroversion. There are many introverts who manage their social time specifically because they care about the impressions they make on others and find it effortful to manage them; and many extroverts who do the opposite specifically because they don’t think at all about such impressions.
- GoblinSlayer 4y ago
  Impression shaping doesn't define who you are, it's a completely artificial front, and it takes an effort exactly because impression has nothing in common with person's essence.
cxf12 4y ago
We have no idea who you objectively are and don't care.
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jasonlotito 4y ago

> I don't give a cent about what random people think about me But you did post about it.

pb7 4y ago
Not caring what people think doesn't mean he can't communicate with others. Introvert doesn't mean asocial.
- bluefirebrand 4y ago
  However there is a certain kind of dissonance between deciding to publicly state "I don't care what you think" that sort of implies that they do care actually. It seems to me that people who truly do not care would just not engage in the first place?
  - nobody9999 4y ago
    >It seems to me that people who truly do not care would just not engage in the first place? That seems rather reductive given the topic here. I don't own an EV auto, or any auto for that matter. By your logic, I shouldn't engage in discussions about EV vs. ICE or anything to do with transportation. Is that correct?
    - prawn 4y ago
      If you said that you have no interest whatsoever in cars or electric cars, or no care for things tangentially related (impact on climate or similar).
      - nobody9999 4y ago
        >If you said that you have no interest whatsoever in cars or electric cars, or no care for things tangentially related (impact on climate or similar). A fair point. However, that's not what GGP[1] said. They said: > Who people think we are is who we are May be true for extroverts, but as an introvert I don't give a cent about what random people think about me (which also explains why I do not use Instagram in the first place). I was responding to a reply[0] to that comment which asserted that: However there is a certain kind of dissonance between deciding to publicly state "I don't care what you think" that sort of implies that they do care actually. It seems to me that people who truly do not care would just not engage in the first place? As I said, I think that's pretty reductive. If you don't care what people on Instagram (or other social media) think, then not using such platforms makes perfect sense. Which is what GGP said. It seems reasonable to comment on the perceived "quest for likes" in a discussion about such things, even if you don't use those platforms and/or don't care what others think. I don't agree with GGP's point about being an introvert, as I'm an extrovert and I don't give a rat's ass about such things either. Nor do I use Instagram or other (mainstream) social media. Despite my (potentially) poor analogy, GP seems to be implying that if you state that you don't care about something, then you actually do care. Which, as I said, seems pretty reductive. And is also a poor use of logic. Please feel free to disagree and/or down-vote me, as I (at least as far as this, and most topics goes) don't really care what others think. Rather, I'm interested in discussion that sparks interesting exchanges. GP's shallow dismissal of GGP doesn't do that. In fact, it may well stifle discussion. And more's the pity. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35074290 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35074290 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35072080 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35072080 Edit: fixed formatting and prose. Clarified my response.
  - pixl97 4y ago
    Is there not a middle ground here? I don't think this is a binary situation where a person has to have no care at all, or it is their full obsession with life. Like, I don't care if you think my clothes are shit, and I don't keep up with the latest javascript flavor of the day. At the same time I don't want, at least the general public around me, thinking I'm some creepy hermit murderer so they don't rise up with torches and pitchforks either.
    - Godel_unicode 4y ago
      That’s what the comment you’re replying to is saying, you just used more words. You’re downstream from someone who asserted they are a hard 0 on the caring, which it sounds like you agree is… unlikely.
- Godel_unicode 4y ago
  If you actually don’t care you wouldn’t post because it wouldn’t occur to you to. Edit: I find that most people who scream “I don’t care what you think” generally mean “I’m not influenced by what you think”. Which is an important difference, and helps explain getting red in the face about someone else’s opinion about which one don’t care.
  - GoblinSlayer 4y ago
    That's because delusion is ugly and thus invokes complaint, so yes sufficient ugliness has influence, but the influence of ugliness is invocation of complaint about ugliness, it doesn't define who you are.
    - deleted 4y ago
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burnished 4y ago

This is all people. Calling yourself an introvert is a prime example in fact. Notice how the top level example didn't start with randos, but family members and close associates.

swatcoder 4y ago

Whatever personality trait you’re talking about is orthogonal to introversion/extroversion. There are many introverts who manage their social time specifically because they care about the impressions they make on others and find it effortful to manage them; and many extroverts who do the opposite specifically because they don’t think at all about such impressions.

GoblinSlayer 4y ago
Impression shaping doesn't define who you are, it's a completely artificial front, and it takes an effort exactly because impression has nothing in common with person's essence.

cxf12 4y ago

We have no idea who you objectively are and don't care.

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