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The title seems quite disingenuous. A better description would be "A PHP based web app which calls OpenAI's Whisper API to transcribe speech"

by vhanda 4y ago

MrOwnPut 4y ago
Many people on HN infamously called Dropbox just an rsync script, right? It's usually all in the details and delivery (and ya'know we're lazy and lack time to setup stuff locally) Though I wouldn't really knock anything free and open source either way.
- blululu 4y ago
  The objection here is more structural than technical. The famous dropbox objection is 'anyone could do this' - even though they might not have the wherewithal to do so. The objection here is that the open source project is relying on a closed source paid service to do all the heavy lifting. Someone is going to need to foot the bill, which means this project will eventually have to answer some tough questions about funding, and what the project actually delivers.
  - pmx 4y ago
    Whisper is open source.
    - phkahler 4y ago
      Where can I download the source from?
      - vasinov 4y ago
        https://github.com/openai/whisper/ https://github.com/openai/whisper/
- phkahler 4y ago
  This is not open source. The wrapper may be, but it's using a non open source cloud service.
  - MrOwnPut 4y ago
    This thread is about the wrapper, which is open source. You can run Whisper locally, and it is open source. Feel free to fork this open source project and adapt it to a locally run Whisper instance.
CSSer 4y ago
I agree. Kudos to the author for sharing a working example of using the OpenAI's PHP Whisper client though. Digging a bit deeper into the organization that released this seems to provide more context: https://beyondco.de/ https://beyondco.de/. It appears this is Laravel oriented.
vubui 4y ago
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- beernet 4y ago
  ....only on HN
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- TylerE 4y ago
  I would expect “transcribe any audio” to mean music transcription, Personally.
  - masukomi 4y ago
    I think that's fair, but i also thing that it's mostly just musicians that would ever think that. I don't think the average person (geek or not) would assume that. I'm a musician and I didn't think it'd write sheet music. As a geek whos done basic music arrangement, I also know that that's an incredibly hard problem once you introduce modern instruments. even staying with just classical ones differetiating between a violin part, and i a viola? or even a cello playing a high note vs a viola? Like... wow. that would be SO hard. We're barely getting words right. I don't think there's any way we're anywhere close to transcribing a full band or orchestra in a meaningful way. Extracting the melody? sure. Chord changes? Sure. Actually doing an accurate and even remotely complete transcription? Incredibly hard.
    - TylerE 4y ago
      Orchestration is it's own ball of wax. If there was software I could just dump an MP3 into and get a basic chart with chords and a melody...that'd be pretty amazing. I've done it, by hand, and the results were even published... it ain't easy. 30 minutes of moderately complex pop rock took a couple of months off and on.
- max51 4y ago
singularity2001 4y ago
why php though, couldn't the whole thing not be completely running in the browser?
cinntaile 4y ago
The main reason people add the tech stack is for marketing reasons. The title describes what it does, I think you're making a mountain out of an anthill.

The title seems quite disingenuous. A better description would be "A PHP based web app which calls OpenAI's Whisper API to transcribe speech"

by vhanda 4y ago

The title seems quite disingenuous. A better description would be "A PHP based web app which calls OpenAI's Whisper API to transcribe speech"

MrOwnPut 4y ago

Many people on HN infamously called Dropbox just an rsync script, right? It's usually all in the details and delivery (and ya'know we're lazy and lack time to setup stuff locally) Though I wouldn't really knock anything free and open source either way.

blululu 4y ago
The objection here is more structural than technical. The famous dropbox objection is 'anyone could do this' - even though they might not have the wherewithal to do so. The objection here is that the open source project is relying on a closed source paid service to do all the heavy lifting. Someone is going to need to foot the bill, which means this project will eventually have to answer some tough questions about funding, and what the project actually delivers.
- pmx 4y ago
  Whisper is open source.
  - phkahler 4y ago
    Where can I download the source from?
    - vasinov 4y ago
      https://github.com/openai/whisper/ https://github.com/openai/whisper/
phkahler 4y ago
This is not open source. The wrapper may be, but it's using a non open source cloud service.
- MrOwnPut 4y ago
  This thread is about the wrapper, which is open source. You can run Whisper locally, and it is open source. Feel free to fork this open source project and adapt it to a locally run Whisper instance.

CSSer 4y ago

I agree. Kudos to the author for sharing a working example of using the OpenAI's PHP Whisper client though. Digging a bit deeper into the organization that released this seems to provide more context: https://beyondco.de/ https://beyondco.de/. It appears this is Laravel oriented.

vubui 4y ago

[flagged]

beernet 4y ago
....only on HN
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
TylerE 4y ago
I would expect “transcribe any audio” to mean music transcription, Personally.
- masukomi 4y ago
  I think that's fair, but i also thing that it's mostly just musicians that would ever think that. I don't think the average person (geek or not) would assume that. I'm a musician and I didn't think it'd write sheet music. As a geek whos done basic music arrangement, I also know that that's an incredibly hard problem once you introduce modern instruments. even staying with just classical ones differetiating between a violin part, and i a viola? or even a cello playing a high note vs a viola? Like... wow. that would be SO hard. We're barely getting words right. I don't think there's any way we're anywhere close to transcribing a full band or orchestra in a meaningful way. Extracting the melody? sure. Chord changes? Sure. Actually doing an accurate and even remotely complete transcription? Incredibly hard.
  - TylerE 4y ago
    Orchestration is it's own ball of wax. If there was software I could just dump an MP3 into and get a basic chart with chords and a melody...that'd be pretty amazing. I've done it, by hand, and the results were even published... it ain't easy. 30 minutes of moderately complex pop rock took a couple of months off and on.
max51 4y ago

singularity2001 4y ago

why php though, couldn't the whole thing not be completely running in the browser?

cinntaile 4y ago

The main reason people add the tech stack is for marketing reasons. The title describes what it does, I think you're making a mountain out of an anthill.