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Between this and cyanobacteria causing a catastrophic (for them) oxygenation event some billion of years ago, many species seem to have causes mass extinctions,

Between this and cyanobacteria causing a catastrophic (for them) oxygenation event some billion of years ago, many species seem to have causes mass extinctions, with us being the last (and quickest) in this chain. Is this another potential "great filter"? Evolving lifeforms can randomly find ways to kill an ecosystem.

cmrdporcupine 4y ago
"Can't wait" to see what evolves to "balance us out" and "keep us in check".
- dd36 4y ago
  AI could see us like we see trees.
  - detritus 4y ago
    As in material-stock to be consumed for development, or aesthetically-pleasing entities we enjoy having around?
    - Fatnino 4y ago
      According to the documentary "The Matrix", it's the first one.
      - nextaccountic 4y ago
        Unfortunately it doesn't make sense to use us as batteries or energy sources, thermodynamically. But they could maybe use our brains as computers (and this was the first idea the writers had, they just decided against it because it would be too complicated for mainstream audiences) But in this case it would be rather wasteful to also nourish the rest of the body. As a bonus, if all the remaining people are just brains floating in a tank, they can't really escape.
        flir 4y ago
        In that film (brains in a jar), you don't escape to reality, you escape to a different level of the matrix (one where you've got superpowers). Last shot in the film will have a lot in common with the last shot in Terry Gilliam's Brazil. It won't get great results from test audiences.
        nextaccountic 4y ago
        > Last shot in the film What do you mean by that? (Not a native speaker and out of ideas on how to search for it)
        flir 4y ago
        Literally? I'm talking about the last scene in the film, right at the end. The last thing that happens before the credits. The film's nearly 40, and I still don't want to spolier it. Suffice to say, it made me feel physically sick.
        nextaccountic 4y ago
        Oh, thanks!
        dr_dshiv 4y ago
        > use our brains as computers (and this was the first idea the writers had, they just decided against it because it would be too complicated for mainstream audiences) Source please!
        nextaccountic 4y ago
        https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/26o6al/til_in_the_original_draft_of_the_matrix_humans/ https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/26o6al/til_i... which links to https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/19817/was-executive-meddling-the-cause-of-humans-as-batteries-in-the-matrix https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/19817/was-executiv... which cites an interview, but doesn't link to it or otherwise show which interview that was said On the other hand, https://www.reddit.com/r/matrix/comments/q2xefs/batteries_not_processors/ https://www.reddit.com/r/matrix/comments/q2xefs/batteries_no... says that this was never true
    - thfuran 4y ago
      Both! You can rip them apart and reassemble them into aesthetically pleasing structures in still-living ones.
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  - moondistance 4y ago
    We should nurture familial-like relationships with them - kids generally look after their parents.
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  - otikik 4y ago
    For one second. Then, bacteria.
- Keyframe 4y ago
  That'd be us, ourselves.
- donnowhy 4y ago
  like how success of a species becomes the failure of the same species. the endless cycles of success and failure. also in multi-generational wealth: poor and hard working become successful (when society allows it) then the descendants are lazy and loose the wealth, and finally further descendants are poor and may learn to work hard. that is, until societies re-organize and stop rewarding hard-work with success; what happens next is still happening, it's what we see in our actual political leadership, it's not very effective and is dragging the world into a seemingly unavoidable war. (both china and USA blaming each other for the escalating: "they (the other) should change course cuz we won't"

cmrdporcupine 4y ago

"Can't wait" to see what evolves to "balance us out" and "keep us in check".

dd36 4y ago
AI could see us like we see trees.
- detritus 4y ago
  As in material-stock to be consumed for development, or aesthetically-pleasing entities we enjoy having around?
  - Fatnino 4y ago
    According to the documentary "The Matrix", it's the first one.
    - nextaccountic 4y ago
      Unfortunately it doesn't make sense to use us as batteries or energy sources, thermodynamically. But they could maybe use our brains as computers (and this was the first idea the writers had, they just decided against it because it would be too complicated for mainstream audiences) But in this case it would be rather wasteful to also nourish the rest of the body. As a bonus, if all the remaining people are just brains floating in a tank, they can't really escape.
      - flir 4y ago
        In that film (brains in a jar), you don't escape to reality, you escape to a different level of the matrix (one where you've got superpowers). Last shot in the film will have a lot in common with the last shot in Terry Gilliam's Brazil. It won't get great results from test audiences.
        nextaccountic 4y ago
        > Last shot in the film What do you mean by that? (Not a native speaker and out of ideas on how to search for it)
        flir 4y ago
        Literally? I'm talking about the last scene in the film, right at the end. The last thing that happens before the credits. The film's nearly 40, and I still don't want to spolier it. Suffice to say, it made me feel physically sick.
        nextaccountic 4y ago
        Oh, thanks!
      - dr_dshiv 4y ago
        > use our brains as computers (and this was the first idea the writers had, they just decided against it because it would be too complicated for mainstream audiences) Source please!
        nextaccountic 4y ago
        https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/26o6al/til_in_the_original_draft_of_the_matrix_humans/ https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/26o6al/til_i... which links to https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/19817/was-executive-meddling-the-cause-of-humans-as-batteries-in-the-matrix https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/19817/was-executiv... which cites an interview, but doesn't link to it or otherwise show which interview that was said On the other hand, https://www.reddit.com/r/matrix/comments/q2xefs/batteries_not_processors/ https://www.reddit.com/r/matrix/comments/q2xefs/batteries_no... says that this was never true
  - thfuran 4y ago
    Both! You can rip them apart and reassemble them into aesthetically pleasing structures in still-living ones.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- moondistance 4y ago
  We should nurture familial-like relationships with them - kids generally look after their parents.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- otikik 4y ago
  For one second. Then, bacteria.
Keyframe 4y ago
That'd be us, ourselves.
donnowhy 4y ago
like how success of a species becomes the failure of the same species. the endless cycles of success and failure. also in multi-generational wealth: poor and hard working become successful (when society allows it) then the descendants are lazy and loose the wealth, and finally further descendants are poor and may learn to work hard. that is, until societies re-organize and stop rewarding hard-work with success; what happens next is still happening, it's what we see in our actual political leadership, it's not very effective and is dragging the world into a seemingly unavoidable war. (both china and USA blaming each other for the escalating: "they (the other) should change course cuz we won't"