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These debates between the created vs the eternal are all over the place in Christianity, not to mention most other religions. Excluding all the gnostic and neo
by wahern 4y ago
These debates between the created vs the eternal are all over the place in Christianity, not to mention most other religions.
Excluding all the gnostic and neoplatonist sects, one of the first big fights in Christianity was between the Arians and what would become mainline Christianity. It concerned whether Jesus was eternal or created. (Excuse me if that's a botched gloss.) The Arians believed Jesus was created, albeit before time. The orthodox Christians insisted Jesus was eternal and uncreated, though the Nicene Creed (drafted to refute and fight Arianism) uses the curious phrasing "eternally begotten". That and similar debates resulted in a ridiculously complex and fascinating ontology around ideas of substance, time, and creation.
EDIT: FWIW, for similar, non-Christian debates see, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash%27arism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash%27arism vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutazilism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutazilism That's still Abrahamic and Greek-adjacent, though, which I think maybe results in a preoccupation with these questions, as compared to some other traditions which don't find them very interesting.