Random 200ms lag is different than showing a new panel full of elements. I'm aware of those complaints. 95% is when people are using a thermal throttled old de

Random 200ms lag is different than showing a new panel full of elements. I'm aware of those complaints. 95% is when people are using a thermal throttled old device, while the app in question is trying to smoothly animate a complete clusterfuck of a webpage (for bonus points it's usually in some god-awful WebView in an app). It's not simply displaying new checkboxes, inputs, labels, buttons, it's multi-megabyte images with fancy CSS effects and so on. > They won't say that they had a 200ms lag when they clicked on a button, but the overall experience degrades when things are slow to respond. Of course, no questions there! But it's not because the "framework is not performant enough", it would be slow even in vanilla JS in 95+ % of situations. > And when you sit that person in front of a good, optimized, snappy application, they will sing praise. Yes. And it's because you say to the client/designer/productperson that hey, if you want snappiness even for the 99th percentile of your users (ranked by hardware), then let's test on that device, and let's forego that nice animation that you saw in that native app on your friend's iPhone 15 ÜberMaxPro. And, not surprisingly, many of the aforementioned culprits will say "I want that shiny thing" > but our industry behaves like a bunch of babies. I don't think you're harsh at all! And I agree. Many IT workplaces went all-in with the infantilism. (Daycare for autist-savants! Colorful open-office with a playroom, maybe even a ball pit! You can't concentrate today? Don't worry, just play some table tennis, and try it again tomorrow! -- Contrast this with the endless office gray cubicle farms of the engineering departments ~50 years ago. Which is probably the other extreme of the spectrum. And I believe there's a healthy middle ground. Well maybe slacking off on HN is not exactly part of it.) > Yet the teams there collaborate just fine. The games industry is famously not in a "fine" place, I'd say :) But yes, of course, they have a clear target, and even if the process requires some blood sacrifice for the crunch times, it works, sometimes. Sometimes we get buggy things like Cyberpunk 2077, which was less-than-optimized for some target platforms.