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UX issues aside (running commands directly is worrisome), that example with ffmpeg is striking. That's really well chosen example of a program I (and many other

UX issues aside (running commands directly is worrisome), that example with ffmpeg is striking. That's really well chosen example of a program I (and many others I believe) dread using directly. Having the computer come up with the "correct" ffmpeg incantation based on the high level description of the goal is really tempting. Though as with the other exampmles, I worry they are subtly incorrect.

jerpint 4y ago
You could just prompt chatGPT more explicitly without giving it full access to your system
isp 4y ago
Catch-all comment for all ChatGPT use cases: (1) Stunning tech demo, a vision of the future today ... yet ... (2) There are so many sharp edges that I'm not brave (foolhardy?) enough to blindly trust the output Doubly so when the output is used for arbitrary command execution(!)
- jrimbault 4y ago
  Yes, that's about my sentiment as well
phonescreen_man 4y ago
Rather than using this app, I simply have a shell function called generate that I can call anytime with a string. Mostly I use it for ffmpeg commands or occasionally asking it to explain something. For the ffmpeg commands I am finding it gets them wrong a good number of times and I have to them use a browser and search for the correct usage. It’s never too far off but it’s wrong enough. Although in my case I think I am actually using free credits on da-vinci - for what it’s worth.
sz4kerto 4y ago
I think/hope that ChatGPT will force users to come up with better UI for their programs (including their CLI programs). If it is easy to tell ChatGPT to run ffmpeg than running it yourself then ffmpeg's UI is not optimal. As we have already realised in other industries (e.g. in the auto industry) is that text-based or voice-based input is clearly less efficient (worse?) than a good UI. If your UI is worse than free text, then time to improve it.
- geraldhh 4y ago
  > If your UI is worse than free text, then time to improve it. maybe even so that the time has run out because now we have a seemingly universal text-to-action middleware
- qup 4y ago
  The difference is that the voice UI didn't require training and is available to everyone, immediately. Efficient UIs are awesome, but generally require some familiarity. A natural language voice interface is ubiquitous.
awrsionionio 4y ago
The `ffmpeg` example is unsubtly incorrect. `ls -1` sorts by name. The system reported finding the "latest downloaded MP4 file" but actually grabbed one essentially at random.

jerpint 4y ago

You could just prompt chatGPT more explicitly without giving it full access to your system

isp 4y ago

Catch-all comment for all ChatGPT use cases: (1) Stunning tech demo, a vision of the future today ... yet ... (2) There are so many sharp edges that I'm not brave (foolhardy?) enough to blindly trust the output Doubly so when the output is used for arbitrary command execution(!)

jrimbault 4y ago
Yes, that's about my sentiment as well

phonescreen_man 4y ago

Rather than using this app, I simply have a shell function called generate that I can call anytime with a string. Mostly I use it for ffmpeg commands or occasionally asking it to explain something. For the ffmpeg commands I am finding it gets them wrong a good number of times and I have to them use a browser and search for the correct usage. It’s never too far off but it’s wrong enough. Although in my case I think I am actually using free credits on da-vinci - for what it’s worth.

sz4kerto 4y ago

I think/hope that ChatGPT will force users to come up with better UI for their programs (including their CLI programs). If it is easy to tell ChatGPT to run ffmpeg than running it yourself then ffmpeg's UI is not optimal. As we have already realised in other industries (e.g. in the auto industry) is that text-based or voice-based input is clearly less efficient (worse?) than a good UI. If your UI is worse than free text, then time to improve it.

geraldhh 4y ago
> If your UI is worse than free text, then time to improve it. maybe even so that the time has run out because now we have a seemingly universal text-to-action middleware
qup 4y ago
The difference is that the voice UI didn't require training and is available to everyone, immediately. Efficient UIs are awesome, but generally require some familiarity. A natural language voice interface is ubiquitous.

awrsionionio 4y ago

The `ffmpeg` example is unsubtly incorrect. `ls -1` sorts by name. The system reported finding the "latest downloaded MP4 file" but actually grabbed one essentially at random.