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Buy the average $400 windows laptop and $250 android phone and you'll see.

by favaq 4y ago

agloe_dreams 4y ago
Would you? Most $400 laptops are on 10th gen Intel or such. Thats actually pretty good. A Pentium Gold is actually just on the edge of a modern i3 which in single core. Smokes most 8th gen chips. They are pretty good. $250 in an Android phone can get you a SD 695 5g these days. IT's not fast per say but it absolutely doesn't suck.
- josephg 4y ago
  Yeah I agree with the GP. Most $400 laptops come pre-loaded with all sorts of janky crap that make that 10th gen intel CPU run like a wounded animal. Most users have no idea how to remove any of it. Or, worse, they'll enable all of the preinstalled antivirus programs because they want their computer to be safe. And it gets worse. I visited my parents once and noticed something weird on my dad's macbook air. Turned out he'd gone out and bought Norton antivirus to install on it (!?). Norton installed a chrome extension which replaced the banner ads on every website he visited with their own ads. I manually deleted the extension from chrome, but norton put it right back again after chrome restarted. If you don't believe me, use performance counters and measure it. Your website runs way slower on your users' computer than you think it does.
  - agloe_dreams 4y ago
    Oh I know, but that situation has become less common over the years. Fewer users are buying AV and most AV is getting better so people don’t complain. Users using outdated versions of Windows with IE has a much larger impact (because IE’s JS engine is incredibly awful) But the point I was making was that the average computer has actually gotten pretty good. Most users use near-latest chrome, most laptops have gotten much quicker. And that’s before noting that the average cell phone in the US has BETTER js performance than the average computer. Most US mobile users have a modern iPhone that is faster in single core performance than some 10th gen laptops.

Buy the average $400 windows laptop and $250 android phone and you'll see.

by favaq 4y ago

Buy the average $400 windows laptop and $250 android phone and you'll see.

Would you? Most $400 laptops are on 10th gen Intel or such. Thats actually pretty good. A Pentium Gold is actually just on the edge of a modern i3 which in single core. Smokes most 8th gen chips. They are pretty good. $250 in an Android phone can get you a SD 695 5g these days. IT's not fast per say but it absolutely doesn't suck.

josephg 4y ago
Yeah I agree with the GP. Most $400 laptops come pre-loaded with all sorts of janky crap that make that 10th gen intel CPU run like a wounded animal. Most users have no idea how to remove any of it. Or, worse, they'll enable all of the preinstalled antivirus programs because they want their computer to be safe. And it gets worse. I visited my parents once and noticed something weird on my dad's macbook air. Turned out he'd gone out and bought Norton antivirus to install on it (!?). Norton installed a chrome extension which replaced the banner ads on every website he visited with their own ads. I manually deleted the extension from chrome, but norton put it right back again after chrome restarted. If you don't believe me, use performance counters and measure it. Your website runs way slower on your users' computer than you think it does.
- agloe_dreams 4y ago
  Oh I know, but that situation has become less common over the years. Fewer users are buying AV and most AV is getting better so people don’t complain. Users using outdated versions of Windows with IE has a much larger impact (because IE’s JS engine is incredibly awful) But the point I was making was that the average computer has actually gotten pretty good. Most users use near-latest chrome, most laptops have gotten much quicker. And that’s before noting that the average cell phone in the US has BETTER js performance than the average computer. Most US mobile users have a modern iPhone that is faster in single core performance than some 10th gen laptops.