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So "4am" is a person? And "they" is the pronoun referring to that person? I couldn't parse the first two paragraphs after reading them three or four times over.
by FearNotDaniel 4y ago
So "4am" is a person? And "they" is the pronoun referring to that person? I couldn't parse the first two paragraphs after reading them three or four times over. Then I started skipping down the page trying to figure out if I (who was around in the eight-bit days, and is interested in hacker-history and nerd-archaeology type stuff, but not personally involved in any related "scene") would be able to make sense of it, or if it was purely written for "insiders". Eventually figured out enough context that, yes, the grammar checked out and I was able to read it and make sense of it. Only then did I come back to "But 4am is an engineer" that strongly implied (but didn't entirely confirm), we are talking about a person here and not a time of day or an abstract concept.
I'm not knocking people for choosing unusual names/handles, after all it's always been a part of hacker culture, or for choosing "they" as a pronoun, which is somewhat inevitable these days... but a little more careful writing of the article intro would make it soooo much easier for the casual reader to just cosy up and enjoy the story. Which was great, by the way. As hoped for - nothing I can act upon, but it tickles my nerd-gills and makes me feel enlightened.
- TedDoesntTalk 4y agoI had the same experience. Read the first part more than once. Confused for a while until I had enough context and understanding that there were two developers. Then I went back and re-read the beginning. Native English speaker here.
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- tecleandor 4y agoTook me a while, and maybe it's implied by the kinda niche theme of the post, but 4am is an Apple II floppy hacker/cracker/tinkerer https://mastodon.social/@a2_4am https://mastodon.social/@a2_4am
- textfiles 4y ago"Ah," I said, writing about my friend 4am and their Apple II cracking towards discussing project management. "It's going to be a little confusing when this gets to the front page of Hackernews, with all those busy people skimming the post, but I hope they'll not be scared by a modern pronoun usage and a link set to the projects to determine what I'm talking about."
- themadturk 4y agoI was having a similar problem. Glad I wasn't alone!