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Humans ability to push others out of the circle of concern is near limitless. We literally bought and sold people. I think there is reason for hope. We stopped
by space_fountain 4y ago
Humans ability to push others out of the circle of concern is near limitless. We literally bought and sold people. I think there is reason for hope. We stopped doing some of those terrible things and only partially for economic reasons, but ai still fills me with some great fear. It shrinks the circle that the wealthy absolutely must keep in their circle, in their tribe, to go on and live happy lives and people of the past have been uncomfortably good at excluding people from the circle in the past. Basically it might not destroy us, but I certainly don’t see it as inevitable that it will bring us to utopia
- js8 4y ago> Humans ability to push others out of the circle of concern is near limitless In theory, yes. In practice, the circle has been continually expanding with technological progress. Stated differently: What's the point of being powerful if you cannot rule over other people? What's the point of having thousands of empty palaces, when no other humans see them or care?
- space_fountain 4y ago> In theory, yes. In practice, the circle has been continually expanding with technological progress. Only if by continually you mean in sum. The holocaust and the genocide that have come since were pretty huge back slides and the tran Atlantic slave trade was a fairly new innovation in scale and kind even if slavery had existed before. Both of those seem if anything enabled by technology. And certainly the rich and powerful are unlikely to to kill absolutely everyone else, but I thought earlier you were arguing that AI would see the end of the rich and powerful. Now you're just saying they'll want to have pets