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That's cool, considering banning apps now for regular citizens. On a technical note, I wonder how this will be implemented. China was probably a pioneer in thi

That's cool, considering banning apps now for regular citizens. On a technical note, I wonder how this will be implemented. China was probably a pioneer in this with the Great Firewall. Russia created a shitlist of websites in 2012 that gets passed down to the ISPs that want to keep their license (for now easily bypassable with VPN, but I'm pretty sure that can be tightened if needed). So I wonder how this is going to work. Will Google Play, AT&T and them receive a regularly updated list of apps and websites that citizens are censored from seeing? Kind of like OFAC for the banks? Will there be any consequences for people who decide to ruin national security by bypassing this garbage and sneaking some tiktoks into their lives?

midoridensha 4y ago
>Russia created a shitlist of websites in 2012 that gets passed down to the ISPs that want to keep their license (for now easily bypassable with VPN, but I'm pretty sure that can be tightened if needed). I don't see how. To prevent citizens from visiting websites, you'd have to ban VPNs, since ISPs have no visibility into VPN traffic. Banning VPN use could be done, but it would have a lot of economic effects since businesses use VPNs a lot for security purposes. You could also make a special government-approved VPN with a backdoor for the government, and only allow citizens to use that. Or, you could require citizens to install special spyware on their devices. All of these solutions to the VPN problem would be rather cumbersome and difficult for a government to implement and enforce, however.
- twelve40 4y ago
  > You could also make a special government-approved VPN with a backdoor for the government, and only allow citizens to use that This one could be done. Order ISPs to filter out VPN-looking traffic to anywhere that's not approved. Yes, it requires effort, but overall sounds doable (unfortunately)
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midoridensha 4y ago

>Russia created a shitlist of websites in 2012 that gets passed down to the ISPs that want to keep their license (for now easily bypassable with VPN, but I'm pretty sure that can be tightened if needed). I don't see how. To prevent citizens from visiting websites, you'd have to ban VPNs, since ISPs have no visibility into VPN traffic. Banning VPN use could be done, but it would have a lot of economic effects since businesses use VPNs a lot for security purposes. You could also make a special government-approved VPN with a backdoor for the government, and only allow citizens to use that. Or, you could require citizens to install special spyware on their devices. All of these solutions to the VPN problem would be rather cumbersome and difficult for a government to implement and enforce, however.

twelve40 4y ago
> You could also make a special government-approved VPN with a backdoor for the government, and only allow citizens to use that This one could be done. Order ISPs to filter out VPN-looking traffic to anywhere that's not approved. Yes, it requires effort, but overall sounds doable (unfortunately)
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