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Looks like Microsoft are starting to flex their partnership with OpenAI & stable diffusion into their tech stack.

by armini 4y ago

hulitu 4y ago
What can go wrong ? Is not like most of their programs are a UI disaster (Office 365, Teams, Explorer, Calculator, Win 10) /s
- calciphus 4y ago
  Wait I'm genuinely curious: what's wrong with Calculator?
  - ly3xqhl8g9 4y ago
    "Windows 11 calculator is creating many problems such as the app surprisingly crashes, opens then immediately closes, or not performs as expected. Some people complain that the built-in Microsoft Store application does not work after they have received an update." [1] The fact that there are 14 ways to fix the Calculator app listed in this article, including even "Disable Windows Firewall temporarily", is simply beyond any sort of rant. Somewhat off-topic, listened recently to Computers Barely Work - Interview with Linux Legend Greg Kroah-Hartman [2] and, as hubristic and cliché as it is, the takeaway was: we must delete every software, destroy every CPU ever made, and start all over again. [1] https://www.howto-connect.com/fix-calculator-not-working-in-windows-11-solved https://www.howto-connect.com/fix-calculator-not-working-in-... (edit: other links about fixing the Calculator app, https://www.groovypost.com/howto/calculator-app-not-working-on-windows-11-fixes https://www.groovypost.com/howto/calculator-app-not-working-..., https://appuals.com/calculator-not-working-windows https://appuals.com/calculator-not-working-windows — the fact that these SEO spam sites exist is also a problem, an app as trivial as a calculator should have one single, self-evident button for the end user to click and fix it, whatever that might imply) [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9MjGziRw-c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9MjGziRw-c
    - chinaman425 4y ago
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    - waihtis 4y ago
      > "Disable Windows Firewall temporarily" I can only presume this is because Microsoft records and sends your calculator inputs to themselves. Windows is just one gigantic spyware operation. So glad I can run 99% of my daily ops on Linux
      - dagw 4y ago
        The site is a spam blog site written purely for SEO and has very little to do with the actual calculator app or offering actually useful advice. It's basically just a copy-paste text dump of every generic trouble shooting tip someone could find on the internet.
        ly3xqhl8g9 4y ago
        Here is a link [1] from the Microsoft forum with an advice to ...right click on Windows PowerShell and select Run as administrator. Then type following command and press Enter key: Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers -Name Microsoft.WindowsCalculator | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml" -Verbose} It's just ridiculous for a Calculator app fix, no matter how you put it. [1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/954577/calculator-app-not-working-in-windows-11 https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/954577/c...
        yanellena 4y ago
        But this command isn't about fixing the calculator app at all, it's for reregistering the application if you have removed it from your profile. I have the new calculator app open literally all of the time and I've not run into any issues with it at all. In fact since it's been updated, it saves me from using Google searches for plenty of types of conversions too so I'd suggest the new update has been a large success.
  - Anon4Now 4y ago
    I use it regularly. It seems fine to me, but I do wish it had copy and paste.
    - diarrhea 4y ago
      The technology just isn't there yet. I can recommend IPython, or just plain PowerShell for simple calculations.
      - smcl 4y ago
        Yeah, I use the Python REPL for any quick calculations - it's usually already open, it's fast and it is more flexible. I still think the default calculator should be quick and functional for those of us who don't do developer things.
    - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
      > I do wish it had copy and paste Have you tried Ctrl + C/V in calculator? Or righ-clicking on the numbers and seeing the Copy and Paste options that pop up? It definitely does have copy and paste. I double checked it right now.
    - MikusR 4y ago
      It has exactly the same copy paste functionality as the old one.
  - hulitu 4y ago
    It is half the screen, hard to use with a mouse, gray on gray, slow to start.
    - MikusR 4y ago
      Even at 800x600 it's not half the screen. Starts at about the same time as the old one. Is black on white. The old one is blue on blue. usage with mouse is the same as the old one. Even the math engine is literally the same.
  - muststopmyths 4y ago
    To name just one thing that bugs me: You can't switch modes with function keys any more. Previously you could go between Scientific,Programmer, etc. with function keys and now you have to use the miserable hamburger menu. I absolutely hate the UI as well, but that's probably subjective. For example, why isn't the input area clearly distinct instead of blending into the surrounding with no border ?
    - MikusR 4y ago
      Which Windows had the switching with Function keys? I just tested with the one from windows 7 and you switch modes with alt+number. Function keys are only used in programmer mode to switch between hex/dex. Those same shortcuts work in the new one. Same with the one from XP that has only two modes, but you can't switch between them using alt+number.
      - muststopmyths 4y ago
        Ugh you’re right. I misremembered which combo does what. I seem to recall function keys not working in programmer mode for a while, but now I am also doubting my mental stability

Looks like Microsoft are starting to flex their partnership with OpenAI & stable diffusion into their tech stack.

by armini 4y ago

Looks like Microsoft are starting to flex their partnership with OpenAI & stable diffusion into their tech stack.

What can go wrong ? Is not like most of their programs are a UI disaster (Office 365, Teams, Explorer, Calculator, Win 10) /s

calciphus 4y ago
Wait I'm genuinely curious: what's wrong with Calculator?
- ly3xqhl8g9 4y ago
  "Windows 11 calculator is creating many problems such as the app surprisingly crashes, opens then immediately closes, or not performs as expected. Some people complain that the built-in Microsoft Store application does not work after they have received an update." [1] The fact that there are 14 ways to fix the Calculator app listed in this article, including even "Disable Windows Firewall temporarily", is simply beyond any sort of rant. Somewhat off-topic, listened recently to Computers Barely Work - Interview with Linux Legend Greg Kroah-Hartman [2] and, as hubristic and cliché as it is, the takeaway was: we must delete every software, destroy every CPU ever made, and start all over again. [1] https://www.howto-connect.com/fix-calculator-not-working-in-windows-11-solved https://www.howto-connect.com/fix-calculator-not-working-in-... (edit: other links about fixing the Calculator app, https://www.groovypost.com/howto/calculator-app-not-working-on-windows-11-fixes https://www.groovypost.com/howto/calculator-app-not-working-..., https://appuals.com/calculator-not-working-windows https://appuals.com/calculator-not-working-windows — the fact that these SEO spam sites exist is also a problem, an app as trivial as a calculator should have one single, self-evident button for the end user to click and fix it, whatever that might imply) [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9MjGziRw-c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9MjGziRw-c
  - chinaman425 4y ago
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  - waihtis 4y ago
    > "Disable Windows Firewall temporarily" I can only presume this is because Microsoft records and sends your calculator inputs to themselves. Windows is just one gigantic spyware operation. So glad I can run 99% of my daily ops on Linux
    - dagw 4y ago
      The site is a spam blog site written purely for SEO and has very little to do with the actual calculator app or offering actually useful advice. It's basically just a copy-paste text dump of every generic trouble shooting tip someone could find on the internet.
      - ly3xqhl8g9 4y ago
        Here is a link [1] from the Microsoft forum with an advice to ...right click on Windows PowerShell and select Run as administrator. Then type following command and press Enter key: Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers -Name Microsoft.WindowsCalculator | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml" -Verbose} It's just ridiculous for a Calculator app fix, no matter how you put it. [1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/954577/calculator-app-not-working-in-windows-11 https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/954577/c...
        yanellena 4y ago
        But this command isn't about fixing the calculator app at all, it's for reregistering the application if you have removed it from your profile. I have the new calculator app open literally all of the time and I've not run into any issues with it at all. In fact since it's been updated, it saves me from using Google searches for plenty of types of conversions too so I'd suggest the new update has been a large success.
- Anon4Now 4y ago
  I use it regularly. It seems fine to me, but I do wish it had copy and paste.
  - diarrhea 4y ago
    The technology just isn't there yet. I can recommend IPython, or just plain PowerShell for simple calculations.
    - smcl 4y ago
      Yeah, I use the Python REPL for any quick calculations - it's usually already open, it's fast and it is more flexible. I still think the default calculator should be quick and functional for those of us who don't do developer things.
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    > I do wish it had copy and paste Have you tried Ctrl + C/V in calculator? Or righ-clicking on the numbers and seeing the Copy and Paste options that pop up? It definitely does have copy and paste. I double checked it right now.
  - MikusR 4y ago
    It has exactly the same copy paste functionality as the old one.
- hulitu 4y ago
  It is half the screen, hard to use with a mouse, gray on gray, slow to start.
  - MikusR 4y ago
    Even at 800x600 it's not half the screen. Starts at about the same time as the old one. Is black on white. The old one is blue on blue. usage with mouse is the same as the old one. Even the math engine is literally the same.
- muststopmyths 4y ago
  To name just one thing that bugs me: You can't switch modes with function keys any more. Previously you could go between Scientific,Programmer, etc. with function keys and now you have to use the miserable hamburger menu. I absolutely hate the UI as well, but that's probably subjective. For example, why isn't the input area clearly distinct instead of blending into the surrounding with no border ?
  - MikusR 4y ago
    Which Windows had the switching with Function keys? I just tested with the one from windows 7 and you switch modes with alt+number. Function keys are only used in programmer mode to switch between hex/dex. Those same shortcuts work in the new one. Same with the one from XP that has only two modes, but you can't switch between them using alt+number.
    - muststopmyths 4y ago
      Ugh you’re right. I misremembered which combo does what. I seem to recall function keys not working in programmer mode for a while, but now I am also doubting my mental stability