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>Trade with the EU is above pre-Brexit levels. please give details? please explain the costs and screw up to our military of pulling out of Galileo??

skippyboxedhero 4y ago
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/december2022 https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpay... What has been the military cost of Brexit in Ukraine? The UK had to lead alone at the start, as we would have done in the EU. Foreign policy generally is one of the key advantages because, so far, the EU fails to be serious. The US has funded their defence for decades: anti-US. Blocked sanctions on Iran. Helped Russia break off Ukraine. Now moving closer to China. If the EU wants to do that, fine. But I don't see why any country needs to go along with that because Germany says so.
- 123pie123 4y ago
  that link only goes back to 2020?? I did NOT say anything about Ukraine - I'm talking about the next generation stuff, not the older stuff Ukraine is getting UK has gone to the 3rd country status and lost (Billions) crap loads of research on weapons - why do you think the gov has done the laughable investment in to OneWeb?? but Money does not seem to factor in to any discussions??
  - skippyboxedhero 4y ago
    Correct, the UK left the Single Market in 2021. Money? France is the only European country that spends anywhere close to the amount required by NATO on defence. European countries rely very heavily on the US. If we were in the EU, Europe is still not going to spend enough. OneWeb merged with Eutelsat. Iirc, the UK invested in OneWeb at a £1bn valuation, and the Eutelsat transaction valued OneWeb at just under £3bn. The UK govt gets a stake in the largest satellite company in Europe, it does so at a lower price by making a shrewd investment in a company in bankruptcy, and all outside of the EU.
    - 123pie123 4y ago
      It invested in to oneweb in a failed attempt (thanks Boris again for the extra wasted money) to see if they can replace Galilieo, of which loads of our military equipment was going to use at it's core strangly this was never discussed by the racist gammons wittering on about take back control

skippyboxedhero 4y ago

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/december2022 https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpay... What has been the military cost of Brexit in Ukraine? The UK had to lead alone at the start, as we would have done in the EU. Foreign policy generally is one of the key advantages because, so far, the EU fails to be serious. The US has funded their defence for decades: anti-US. Blocked sanctions on Iran. Helped Russia break off Ukraine. Now moving closer to China. If the EU wants to do that, fine. But I don't see why any country needs to go along with that because Germany says so.

123pie123 4y ago
that link only goes back to 2020?? I did NOT say anything about Ukraine - I'm talking about the next generation stuff, not the older stuff Ukraine is getting UK has gone to the 3rd country status and lost (Billions) crap loads of research on weapons - why do you think the gov has done the laughable investment in to OneWeb?? but Money does not seem to factor in to any discussions??
- skippyboxedhero 4y ago
  Correct, the UK left the Single Market in 2021. Money? France is the only European country that spends anywhere close to the amount required by NATO on defence. European countries rely very heavily on the US. If we were in the EU, Europe is still not going to spend enough. OneWeb merged with Eutelsat. Iirc, the UK invested in OneWeb at a £1bn valuation, and the Eutelsat transaction valued OneWeb at just under £3bn. The UK govt gets a stake in the largest satellite company in Europe, it does so at a lower price by making a shrewd investment in a company in bankruptcy, and all outside of the EU.
  - 123pie123 4y ago
    It invested in to oneweb in a failed attempt (thanks Boris again for the extra wasted money) to see if they can replace Galilieo, of which loads of our military equipment was going to use at it's core strangly this was never discussed by the racist gammons wittering on about take back control