The UK has always, from the beginning, been a thorn in the side of the EU. De Gaulle was against us joining, and although I think his reasons were xenophobic, I

The UK has always, from the beginning, been a thorn in the side of the EU. De Gaulle was against us joining, and although I think his reasons were xenophobic, I think he was right. We'll be better as neighbours than as blood relations. There's a lot of history; and we're not trusted, for fairly good reasons. I think all of us, the UK and the EU, will benefit in the long run.