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> I let my hunger and energy levels guide my food choices. Perhaps "inform" (as in a signal that does not determine decision) might be a better approach. Hunge
by lo_zamoyski 4y ago
> I let my hunger and energy levels guide my food choices.
Perhaps "inform" (as in a signal that does not determine decision) might be a better approach. Hunger is not strictly correlated with need. That is, hunger and appetite are also subject to habituation. If someone is accustomed to eating three large meals a day with snacks in between, they will likely feel hungry when one of those meals is eliminated, or even when snacks are reduced. We hardly need as much as we generally consume, and the last thing we need is to be led around by our appetites. Like children, they can tell us what they want, but it is we who must assess what is actually needed or within healthy limits. Lack of hunger should also not form the basis for not eating. I suspect that's why you included "energy levels" as another signal. If you're not merely hungry, but feeling weak, and you know you haven't eaten in a while, then you could probably use some food.
I would argue that adopting a schedule and using fasting to reduce intake and "noshing" and conform hunger reoccurrence to this schedule are a good approach. Fasting also has the benefit of helping us discipline our appetites, something people are generally miserable at unless they practice self-denial or have them disciplined by outside causes. Disciplined appetites sharpen the mind and strengthen the will and contribute to virtue and therefore true freedom (in the classical sense, not the liberal sense which is a recipe for enslavement). This latter benefit is more important than the first. Furthermore, human beings are animals, but we are not beasts. We do not merely guzzle slop from a trough. We eat meals. Meals are not merely about obtaining nutrition.
- autoexec 4y ago> Disciplined appetites sharpen the mind Do you have a source for that? To what extent is the mind "sharpened" by putting off snacks?
- meroes 4y agoYou’re right on many points. And yes I did say energy levels to account for not relying solely on hunger. You’re using the “through disciple -> freedom” idea from Aristotle I think. And you’re using what is needed. I agree for your conception of humans we need the regimen you lay out. I don’t argue with that. But how do you fill your plates? With discipline you count each asparagus frond, weigh each food group, count every calorie? No, at some point we are listening to ourselves. Since we are already doing that, why not skip many of these middle-practices? I am very present taking in food and assembling my meal. Why do I need Greek philosophers to tell me what I already know? Eating is for ourselves. Not everything is so selfish and personal, but it is one case where listening inward is the primary focus. Contrast to listening to the needs of others in order to be happy. Maybe that’s another discipline, to be present and listen inward. And not appeal to principles of others. I also arrived at this stage by failing with other diets over 7 years or so. It’s not like I had some grand principle at the beginning. I could not do certain things I like to do with fasting. I hike and stretch every single day as physical therapy for an injury. Fasting would wreck me.