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I really dislike this model. While it makes it extremely easy for companies to covertly use a prejudice filter on applicants, it makes it really hard for a pers

by ttt_ 15y ago

I really dislike this model. While it makes it extremely easy for companies to covertly use a prejudice filter on applicants, it makes it really hard for a person to have a social life on the web that's entirely different from their work ethos.

jiggy2011 15y ago
True, if you have a twitter account filled with links to pictures of yourself drunk at titty bars your potential employer might be able to find it but I don't see how it serves anybodies interests to explicitly point them to it. Will be interesting (and scary) to see what happens as social media permeates more of our lives and makes things public. Will we end up with a situation where employers will enforce strict rules about out of hours conduct of employees so as not to reflect badly on them, Orwellian Society? Or will everyone have so much dirt on everyone else that it just stops to matter anymore, this could in fact lead to a more honest and liberal society.
- paganel 15y ago
  > Or will everyone have so much dirt on everyone else that it just stops to matter anymore, this could in fact lead to a more honest and liberal society. I think we already have that (well, at least at the medium-to-large-company level), it's called company Christmas parties.
mindcrime 15y ago
really hard for a person to have a social life on the web that's entirely different from their work ethos. I don't know... maybe the problem is the belief that there must be a difference between your "social life" and your "work ethos." There seems to be an assumption in this thread that having, say, "pictures of the applicant drunk at titty bars" is somehow a bad thing, something an employer (or potential employer) will take a dim view of. Maybe the solution is to look for (or found) more open-minded organizations that don't care about shit like this. I mean, if I were hiring right now, I couldn't give a fuck less about somebody's Facebook profile pictures of them drunk and puking at a frat party, or hanging out at a strip club, or snorting coke off of a hooker's tits. As long as they can convince me that they can and will do the work that needs to be done, meeting the relevant parameters for quality, timeliness or what-have-you, I don't care about any of that jazz. Surely there have to be some other folks out there who feel the same way.
- ttt_ 15y ago
  >> "pictures of the applicant drunk at titty bars" is somehow a bad thing You are looking at this from just one perspective. What about a company that will be paying your health care insurance and knows before-hand that you have a serious medical condition but that it doesn't impede you from doing your work. Not a shy number of companies might simply turn you away for that reason alone. I've heard of recruiters that don't hire people that use motorcycles because the accident rate is so high. What about your gender identity? A lot of people simply have to live a double life because if they depend on open-minded organizations to accept them, they would simply be unemployed for life. What about religion? Or personal opinion? Those things usually step on some peoples toes, and it might just be the employer-to-be's toes.

by ttt_ 15y ago

jiggy2011 15y ago

True, if you have a twitter account filled with links to pictures of yourself drunk at titty bars your potential employer might be able to find it but I don't see how it serves anybodies interests to explicitly point them to it. Will be interesting (and scary) to see what happens as social media permeates more of our lives and makes things public. Will we end up with a situation where employers will enforce strict rules about out of hours conduct of employees so as not to reflect badly on them, Orwellian Society? Or will everyone have so much dirt on everyone else that it just stops to matter anymore, this could in fact lead to a more honest and liberal society.

paganel 15y ago
> Or will everyone have so much dirt on everyone else that it just stops to matter anymore, this could in fact lead to a more honest and liberal society. I think we already have that (well, at least at the medium-to-large-company level), it's called company Christmas parties.

mindcrime 15y ago

really hard for a person to have a social life on the web that's entirely different from their work ethos. I don't know... maybe the problem is the belief that there must be a difference between your "social life" and your "work ethos." There seems to be an assumption in this thread that having, say, "pictures of the applicant drunk at titty bars" is somehow a bad thing, something an employer (or potential employer) will take a dim view of. Maybe the solution is to look for (or found) more open-minded organizations that don't care about shit like this. I mean, if I were hiring right now, I couldn't give a fuck less about somebody's Facebook profile pictures of them drunk and puking at a frat party, or hanging out at a strip club, or snorting coke off of a hooker's tits. As long as they can convince me that they can and will do the work that needs to be done, meeting the relevant parameters for quality, timeliness or what-have-you, I don't care about any of that jazz. Surely there have to be some other folks out there who feel the same way.

ttt_ 15y ago
>> "pictures of the applicant drunk at titty bars" is somehow a bad thing You are looking at this from just one perspective. What about a company that will be paying your health care insurance and knows before-hand that you have a serious medical condition but that it doesn't impede you from doing your work. Not a shy number of companies might simply turn you away for that reason alone. I've heard of recruiters that don't hire people that use motorcycles because the accident rate is so high. What about your gender identity? A lot of people simply have to live a double life because if they depend on open-minded organizations to accept them, they would simply be unemployed for life. What about religion? Or personal opinion? Those things usually step on some peoples toes, and it might just be the employer-to-be's toes.