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> Are you trying to normalise harassment? Harassment is defined as "aggressive pressure or intimidation." Can you help everyone here understand how occasional
by eganist 4y ago
> Are you trying to normalise harassment?
Harassment is defined as "aggressive pressure or intimidation." Can you help everyone here understand how occasional requests for donation for a free service you voluntarily use constitute harassment?
- HKH2 4y agoSince when does harassment require intimidation? Maybe it's a regional thing. Anyway, the basic principle is respecting someone's refusal of something. Signal can harp on about how good they are, but they are far worse than even WhatsApp in this respect. You might think dark patterns are okay when they're in a free app, however they're still dark patterns.
- eganist 4y agoFrom what I recall, the donation prompt says "not now" to dismiss, in which case you're consenting to being reminded later by picking that option. If you wish to never see the prompt again, you would have to uninstall the application altogether as no "do not remind me again" option exists, which makes perfect sense considering they're a free service. I say "from what I recall" because I chose to donate. But back to the point: considering you consented to be reminded later by keeping the app installed and choosing "not now," where's the consent violation? (the term you're looking for specifically, since harassment is not the correct word choice)
- HKH2 4y agoYou're correct. There is no consent violation. Signal is just nagware.
- anigbrowl 4y agoIt's not harassment, but they're constantly begging for donations (as in, every 1-2 days) even though they have a >$40 million cushion.