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> You are anti-diverse since you are hostile to desktop users. Huh? Signal desktop has all the features of the phone, as far as I can tell. Very strange defin
by nanna 4y ago
> You are anti-diverse since you are hostile to desktop users.
Huh? Signal desktop has all the features of the phone, as far as I can tell.
Very strange definition of diversity!
> Also, you are pro-harassment because you teach people that no doesn't mean no; I say no to donating and you keep asking me.
If this is what you call harassment, count yourself lucky in life. :)
- HKH2 4y ago[flagged]
- eganist 4y ago> Are you trying to normalise harassment? Harassment is defined as "aggressive pressure or intimidation." Can you help everyone here understand how occasional requests for donation for a free service you voluntarily use constitute harassment?
- HKH2 4y agoSince when does harassment require intimidation? Maybe it's a regional thing. Anyway, the basic principle is respecting someone's refusal of something. Signal can harp on about how good they are, but they are far worse than even WhatsApp in this respect. You might think dark patterns are okay when they're in a free app, however they're still dark patterns.
- eganist 4y agoFrom what I recall, the donation prompt says "not now" to dismiss, in which case you're consenting to being reminded later by picking that option. If you wish to never see the prompt again, you would have to uninstall the application altogether as no "do not remind me again" option exists, which makes perfect sense considering they're a free service. I say "from what I recall" because I chose to donate. But back to the point: considering you consented to be reminded later by keeping the app installed and choosing "not now," where's the consent violation? (the term you're looking for specifically, since harassment is not the correct word choice)
- HKH2 4y agoYou're correct. There is no consent violation. Signal is just nagware.
- anigbrowl 4y agoIt's not harassment, but they're constantly begging for donations (as in, every 1-2 days) even though they have a >$40 million cushion.
- dang 4y agoCan you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? You've unfortunately been doing that more than once recently. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- HKH2 4y agoSorry. I'll try to avoid rhetorical questions.
- anigbrowl 4y agoNo it doesn't. You can't export/backup on desktop, for example. I'd like to back up signal database to the SD card on my phone, because I don't have enough space to d it on the internal storage, but the app won't let you choose where your backup goes. So if you have a large message database that takes up more than half your built-in storage, you're SOL.