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Screen on my Zenbook has touch layer, that makes glass a bit thicker I guess. And yes I keep it in stuffed in backpack and sometimes drop it. It is a tool, not

Screen on my Zenbook has touch layer, that makes glass a bit thicker I guess. And yes I keep it in stuffed in backpack and sometimes drop it. It is a tool, not museum exponate! I had other laptops that left fingerprints. But Macbook Air had glass so thin it would randomly pop from temperature difference (well known issue)! Nobody is forcing you to carry brick around. But some people like to carry brick and Apple should make a new model just for them (MacBrick). Is "wash your hands before use" mentioned in macbook manual? And how do you even clean keyboard on Macbooks? That thing falls apart with a bad look, and it costs like $800 to replace. I can not imagine removing key caps just to clean it up!

pb7 4y ago
>sometimes drop it. It is a tool, not museum exponate Yeah, why can't it double as a hammer too? >And how do you even clean keyboard on Macbooks The same way you do it on any other laptop. >That thing falls apart with a bad look No it doesn't. >But some people like to carry brick and Apple should make a new model just for them No they shouldn't, go buy your brick from someone else.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  > No they shouldn't Allow me to present the sexiest-ever evidence to the contrary: The G3 "Wallstreet" Powerbook. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_G3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_G3 Apple has made excellent portable dev workstations in the past. After the release of the Unibody Macbook Pro though, the focus of their hardware and software focues far, far away from developers. The new 14"/16" lineup is a good return to form, but in the context of how developer-unfriendly modern MacOS is it feels pyrrhic. If you don't relate to someone's opinion, you don't have to justify Apple's stance against it.
  - pb7 4y ago
    >developer-unfriendly This is where you lose me. Go to any tech company with pockets deep enough to afford whatever hardware its employees want and the vast majority will have MacBook Pros running macOS.
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      Sure, and I've seen it. I've also been responsible for writing the Mac-specific workarounds, and it's not very fun sourcing the correct version of bash from the incorrect install location, or fighting Homebrew consistency across different arches. MacOS is simply shit for development. Even garbage proprietary Unix like Oracle Linux come with uniform packaging and up-to-date coreutils. MacOS had it's chance to be a developer platform (Xserve) and it just highlighted the most greedy, dysfunctional parts of Apple. It needs tough love to improve, because as-is it feels like Apple is ignoring the industry.
      - kaba0 4y ago
        I do agree with you that pretty linux is the only sane developer environment, but it’s not exactly rocket science to make proper linux available for OSX, while still benefiting from the all-around apple ecosystem.
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pb7 4y ago

>sometimes drop it. It is a tool, not museum exponate Yeah, why can't it double as a hammer too? >And how do you even clean keyboard on Macbooks The same way you do it on any other laptop. >That thing falls apart with a bad look No it doesn't. >But some people like to carry brick and Apple should make a new model just for them No they shouldn't, go buy your brick from someone else.

smoldesu 4y ago
> No they shouldn't Allow me to present the sexiest-ever evidence to the contrary: The G3 "Wallstreet" Powerbook. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_G3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_G3 Apple has made excellent portable dev workstations in the past. After the release of the Unibody Macbook Pro though, the focus of their hardware and software focues far, far away from developers. The new 14"/16" lineup is a good return to form, but in the context of how developer-unfriendly modern MacOS is it feels pyrrhic. If you don't relate to someone's opinion, you don't have to justify Apple's stance against it.
- pb7 4y ago
  >developer-unfriendly This is where you lose me. Go to any tech company with pockets deep enough to afford whatever hardware its employees want and the vast majority will have MacBook Pros running macOS.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    Sure, and I've seen it. I've also been responsible for writing the Mac-specific workarounds, and it's not very fun sourcing the correct version of bash from the incorrect install location, or fighting Homebrew consistency across different arches. MacOS is simply shit for development. Even garbage proprietary Unix like Oracle Linux come with uniform packaging and up-to-date coreutils. MacOS had it's chance to be a developer platform (Xserve) and it just highlighted the most greedy, dysfunctional parts of Apple. It needs tough love to improve, because as-is it feels like Apple is ignoring the industry.
    - kaba0 4y ago
      I do agree with you that pretty linux is the only sane developer environment, but it’s not exactly rocket science to make proper linux available for OSX, while still benefiting from the all-around apple ecosystem.
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