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Elon did what he's done for the past decade. Can't help but play to a crowd and let the lawyers figure it out later. This is a cocktail of calling a rescue dive

Elon did what he's done for the past decade. Can't help but play to a crowd and let the lawyers figure it out later. This is a cocktail of calling a rescue diver a pedophile, mocking all skills that aren't coders, and unnecessary cruelty when laying off workers. If Haraldur intended to bait him, it was a near-flawless execution. I'm sure there are countless labor, disability, and health info privacy lawyers lining up in Halli's DMs.

jack_riminton 4y ago
I suspect this too, Haraldur seems like a smart dude who's been stewing about Elon's mismanagement and assholerly for a while
- throwntoday 4y ago
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  - eigart 4y ago
    Elon?
- jack_riminton 4y ago
  Here's the kicker; Twitter would be liable for paying him $100m if he got fired https://www.bosshunting.com.au/hustle/elon-musk-firing-halli-thorleifsson-twitter-100-million-mistake/ https://www.bosshunting.com.au/hustle/elon-musk-firing-halli... (allegedly)
  - msikora 4y ago
    And the reason is that he took the $100m in salary so he can pay as high tax as possible: "In early 2021, Haraldur sold Ueno to Twitter. In an agreement between him and Twitter, most of the purchase price was paid as salary to maximize the tax he would pay for the sale in Iceland. He chose to pay for tax out of respect to Iceland for the disability benefits he received. Per the agreement, he paid the second highest tax of an individual in Iceland in 2021."
    - jack_riminton 4y ago
      And Haraldur knew that if Elon refused to pay him then Icelandic laws would mean they could freeze operations and seize assets of Twitter there. It's a shame Elon isn't able to utilise such intelligent and talented people!
      - kokekolo 4y ago
        Realistically, how much would this hurt Twitter? Looking at Elon now, he might just go with it.
        jack_riminton 4y ago
        Considering he tried to sell potted plants to employees, I’d say $100m would hurt like hell https://www.indy100.com/amp/elon-musk-sells-office-plants-twitter-2659537391 https://www.indy100.com/amp/elon-musk-sells-office-plants-tw...
ryanSrich 4y ago
> If Haraldur intended to bait him, it was a near-flawless execution. I'm sure there are countless labor, disability, and health info privacy lawyers lining up in Halli's DMs. Considering there were entire articles by news outlets like the BBC just queued up and ready to go. My sense is this was premeditated. Elon is such an easy target.
- johneth 4y ago
  > Elon is such an easy target. A richly deserving target, too.
- enragedcacti 4y ago
  > considering there were entire articles by news outlets like the BBC just queued up and ready to go. My sense is this was premeditated. Excessively conspiratorial imo, it isn't difficult to slap together an article about a series of tweets and the BBC article wasn't posted until about 8 hours after the first tweet and 3.5 hours after the last tweet from Elon in the original thread. http://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64871183 http://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://www.bbc.c... https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1632843191773716481 https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1632843191773716481 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632916854657396736 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632916854657396736
  - wpietri 4y ago
    Exactly. I have no idea how an HN user can see this site, which is filled with rapid-response prose to emerging events, and imagine that it's impossible for a professional journalist to quickly write a 600-word summary of a Twitter discussion.
- PragmaticPulp 4y ago
  > Considering there were entire articles by news outlets like the BBC just queued up and ready to go. Are you implying that journalists conspired with this guy to bait Elon into responding in a terrible manner and they pre-wrote articles about it? Journalists use Twitter, too. They can write and publish articles quickly. There’s no conspiracy here. News articles appearing several hours after a story unfolds entirely within public Tweets is both common and normal.
therouwboat 4y ago
Elon not only called rescue diver a pedo, but also tried to give buzzfeed off the record info that diver had childbride in thailand. I'm bit afraid what he is going to do now.
- walrus01 4y ago
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  - DiggyJohnson 4y ago
    This is a murder fantasy and has no place on HN, in my opinion.
    - skyyler 4y ago
      Flag it and move on.
      - DiggyJohnson 4y ago
        I flagged it. That has very little to do with my decision to comment or not.
        skyyler 4y ago
        [flagged]
        DiggyJohnson 4y ago
        Why this tone? This how comment thread has been really bizarre from my perspective.
    - masfuerte 4y ago
      "Smart" devices are getting everywhere, but surely no-one would build a Mars base that stops working when it loses comms.
ajmurmann 4y ago
Watching Elon makes me think about the things for which a large portion of the public made fun of Jack Dorsey. Regular meditation, month-long meditation retreats and emphasis on regular exercise or alternative measures are probably needed to keep operating at that level. I know I get in a much worse mental state without physical exercise and journaling or meditation.
- RivieraKid 4y ago
  The main reason why Elon is like this is that he's on the psychopathy spectrum. Meditation could perhaps improve his ability to keep the mask on, but it wouldn't change who he is.
  - dijit 4y ago
    > Meditation could perhaps improve his ability to keep the mask on Wasn't there a recent study that suggested that mindfulness meditation is correlated with an increase in narcissism, not a reduction?
    - pxc 4y ago
      There are other kinds of meditation, including some that are focused on cultivating empathy and concern for others. That might help, idk.
  - jyscao 4y ago
    >he's on the psychopathy spectrum Can't say if he's on the psychopathy spectrum or not, but he has admitted to be on the autistic spectrum, and I think that alone must be enough of a hinderance to running a social medial company.
    - drcongo 4y ago
      He's not on the autism spectrum, that's just another one of his lies.
      - 4y ago
lr1970 4y ago
> If Haraldur intended to bait him Reading Icelandic names like Haraldur evokes strong subconscious aura of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. Curious if someone would write a novel (or a parody or a game) about Middle Earth's modern high tech corporate culture.
- thefringthing 4y ago
  Tolkien lifted a bunch of names straight out of the Icelandic sagas and Edda.

jack_riminton 4y ago

I suspect this too, Haraldur seems like a smart dude who's been stewing about Elon's mismanagement and assholerly for a while

throwntoday 4y ago
[flagged]
- eigart 4y ago
  Elon?
jack_riminton 4y ago
Here's the kicker; Twitter would be liable for paying him $100m if he got fired https://www.bosshunting.com.au/hustle/elon-musk-firing-halli-thorleifsson-twitter-100-million-mistake/ https://www.bosshunting.com.au/hustle/elon-musk-firing-halli... (allegedly)
- msikora 4y ago
  And the reason is that he took the $100m in salary so he can pay as high tax as possible: "In early 2021, Haraldur sold Ueno to Twitter. In an agreement between him and Twitter, most of the purchase price was paid as salary to maximize the tax he would pay for the sale in Iceland. He chose to pay for tax out of respect to Iceland for the disability benefits he received. Per the agreement, he paid the second highest tax of an individual in Iceland in 2021."
  - jack_riminton 4y ago
    And Haraldur knew that if Elon refused to pay him then Icelandic laws would mean they could freeze operations and seize assets of Twitter there. It's a shame Elon isn't able to utilise such intelligent and talented people!
    - kokekolo 4y ago
      Realistically, how much would this hurt Twitter? Looking at Elon now, he might just go with it.
      - jack_riminton 4y ago
        Considering he tried to sell potted plants to employees, I’d say $100m would hurt like hell https://www.indy100.com/amp/elon-musk-sells-office-plants-twitter-2659537391 https://www.indy100.com/amp/elon-musk-sells-office-plants-tw...

ryanSrich 4y ago

> If Haraldur intended to bait him, it was a near-flawless execution. I'm sure there are countless labor, disability, and health info privacy lawyers lining up in Halli's DMs. Considering there were entire articles by news outlets like the BBC just queued up and ready to go. My sense is this was premeditated. Elon is such an easy target.

johneth 4y ago
> Elon is such an easy target. A richly deserving target, too.
enragedcacti 4y ago
> considering there were entire articles by news outlets like the BBC just queued up and ready to go. My sense is this was premeditated. Excessively conspiratorial imo, it isn't difficult to slap together an article about a series of tweets and the BBC article wasn't posted until about 8 hours after the first tweet and 3.5 hours after the last tweet from Elon in the original thread. http://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64871183 http://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://www.bbc.c... https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1632843191773716481 https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1632843191773716481 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632916854657396736 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632916854657396736
- wpietri 4y ago
  Exactly. I have no idea how an HN user can see this site, which is filled with rapid-response prose to emerging events, and imagine that it's impossible for a professional journalist to quickly write a 600-word summary of a Twitter discussion.
PragmaticPulp 4y ago
> Considering there were entire articles by news outlets like the BBC just queued up and ready to go. Are you implying that journalists conspired with this guy to bait Elon into responding in a terrible manner and they pre-wrote articles about it? Journalists use Twitter, too. They can write and publish articles quickly. There’s no conspiracy here. News articles appearing several hours after a story unfolds entirely within public Tweets is both common and normal.

therouwboat 4y ago

Elon not only called rescue diver a pedo, but also tried to give buzzfeed off the record info that diver had childbride in thailand. I'm bit afraid what he is going to do now.

walrus01 4y ago
[flagged]
- DiggyJohnson 4y ago
  This is a murder fantasy and has no place on HN, in my opinion.
  - skyyler 4y ago
    Flag it and move on.
    - DiggyJohnson 4y ago
      I flagged it. That has very little to do with my decision to comment or not.
      - skyyler 4y ago
        [flagged]
        DiggyJohnson 4y ago
        Why this tone? This how comment thread has been really bizarre from my perspective.
  - masfuerte 4y ago
    "Smart" devices are getting everywhere, but surely no-one would build a Mars base that stops working when it loses comms.

ajmurmann 4y ago

Watching Elon makes me think about the things for which a large portion of the public made fun of Jack Dorsey. Regular meditation, month-long meditation retreats and emphasis on regular exercise or alternative measures are probably needed to keep operating at that level. I know I get in a much worse mental state without physical exercise and journaling or meditation.

RivieraKid 4y ago
The main reason why Elon is like this is that he's on the psychopathy spectrum. Meditation could perhaps improve his ability to keep the mask on, but it wouldn't change who he is.
- dijit 4y ago
  > Meditation could perhaps improve his ability to keep the mask on Wasn't there a recent study that suggested that mindfulness meditation is correlated with an increase in narcissism, not a reduction?
  - pxc 4y ago
    There are other kinds of meditation, including some that are focused on cultivating empathy and concern for others. That might help, idk.
- jyscao 4y ago
  >he's on the psychopathy spectrum Can't say if he's on the psychopathy spectrum or not, but he has admitted to be on the autistic spectrum, and I think that alone must be enough of a hinderance to running a social medial company.
  - drcongo 4y ago
    He's not on the autism spectrum, that's just another one of his lies.
    - 4y ago

lr1970 4y ago

> If Haraldur intended to bait him Reading Icelandic names like Haraldur evokes strong subconscious aura of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. Curious if someone would write a novel (or a parody or a game) about Middle Earth's modern high tech corporate culture.

thefringthing 4y ago
Tolkien lifted a bunch of names straight out of the Icelandic sagas and Edda.