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Really? Try injecting the majority of hoarded wealth into the equation and re-run the numbers, and then tell us there aren't enough workers to support the syste

Really? Try injecting the majority of hoarded wealth into the equation and re-run the numbers, and then tell us there aren't enough workers to support the system.

HDThoreaun 4y ago
How does the state seize the hoarded wealth when it can just move to a tax haven?
- bradlys 4y ago
  The state has this thing called the military. If it wants to - it’ll get you back and take your money by force. I figured people would understand that this is an option when people like Jack Ma go missing for a few months.
  - HDThoreaun 4y ago
    They do this and literally every billionaire will immediately leave. Seems a bit short sighted.
    - bradlys 4y ago
      That's the fun part - your military makes it so they can't leave.
      - HDThoreaun 4y ago
        Europe has open borders. How is that going to work?
        bradlys 4y ago
        Europe doesn't have open borders... Even if they "left" their home country somehow - extradition treaties are a thing.
      - quotz 4y ago
        Youre proposing the military hold hostage billionaires in france until they all sign away their wealth to the state? This is basically post WW2 newly-found communist states, or Mao level of fascism. Think twice before you write stuff like this, most Americans cant even imagine the atrocities that were committed during communist times. Literally read any book about how communism felt like. You're offending millions of people who tried extremely hard to escape communism and live a normal life. I am a post-communism kid whose parents grew up in one...
- forgetfreeman 4y ago
  Capital flight is a potential risk, true. There are any number of potential remedies on a niceness continuum ranging from using the legal system to freeze assets on the nice end to guillotines on the not-so-nice end. You're encouraged to consult any number of history texts for past examples of wealth transfer from the elite classes.
  - logicchains 4y ago
    >There are any number of potential remedies on a niceness continuum ranging from using the legal system to freeze assets on the nice end to guillotines on the not-so-nice end You do realise the guillotines in the French revolution weren't used on "rich people", they were used on the nobility (ruling class)? And in the times that approach was used on the rich people, e.g. Stalinist Russia, Maoist China, Pol Pot's Cambodia, the countries in which it occurred was plunged into decades of extreme poverty and genocides.

Really? Try injecting the majority of hoarded wealth into the equation and re-run the numbers, and then tell us there aren't enough workers to support the system.

HDThoreaun 4y ago

How does the state seize the hoarded wealth when it can just move to a tax haven?

bradlys 4y ago
The state has this thing called the military. If it wants to - it’ll get you back and take your money by force. I figured people would understand that this is an option when people like Jack Ma go missing for a few months.
- HDThoreaun 4y ago
  They do this and literally every billionaire will immediately leave. Seems a bit short sighted.
  - bradlys 4y ago
    That's the fun part - your military makes it so they can't leave.
    - HDThoreaun 4y ago
      Europe has open borders. How is that going to work?
      - bradlys 4y ago
        Europe doesn't have open borders... Even if they "left" their home country somehow - extradition treaties are a thing.
    - quotz 4y ago
      Youre proposing the military hold hostage billionaires in france until they all sign away their wealth to the state? This is basically post WW2 newly-found communist states, or Mao level of fascism. Think twice before you write stuff like this, most Americans cant even imagine the atrocities that were committed during communist times. Literally read any book about how communism felt like. You're offending millions of people who tried extremely hard to escape communism and live a normal life. I am a post-communism kid whose parents grew up in one...
forgetfreeman 4y ago
Capital flight is a potential risk, true. There are any number of potential remedies on a niceness continuum ranging from using the legal system to freeze assets on the nice end to guillotines on the not-so-nice end. You're encouraged to consult any number of history texts for past examples of wealth transfer from the elite classes.
- logicchains 4y ago
  >There are any number of potential remedies on a niceness continuum ranging from using the legal system to freeze assets on the nice end to guillotines on the not-so-nice end You do realise the guillotines in the French revolution weren't used on "rich people", they were used on the nobility (ruling class)? And in the times that approach was used on the rich people, e.g. Stalinist Russia, Maoist China, Pol Pot's Cambodia, the countries in which it occurred was plunged into decades of extreme poverty and genocides.