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> Everyone should quit, get ahead of the layoffs, useless company. Your work there makes the world a worse place. You can do better. This is everything I wante

by kjok 4y ago

> Everyone should quit, get ahead of the layoffs, useless company. Your work there makes the world a worse place. You can do better. This is everything I wanted to say about FB. Always wondered why so many talented folks (with PhDs) choose to work there.

blsapologist42 4y ago
My friend works there. In 2021 they made $1.5 million. Last year it was less I guess with the stock drop, but still, I can't fault them.
temende 4y ago
Probably because they pretty consistently had the highest total compensation packages for engineers.
barbazoo 4y ago
People will say it's their compensation but there are many many places that pay well that don't make the world a shittier place. One doesn't have to sell their soul to the highest bidder.
- RestlessMind 4y ago
  > there are many many places Can you please name 5 of those alternatives which pay as well as Facebook and yet are a better corp for the world?
  - Ancalagon 4y ago
    Nit: they did say "pay well" not "pay as well". "Pay well" might mean less than Meta but still at a comfortable level, subjectively.
    - RestlessMind 4y ago
      Okay, let's start with "pay well" then. Edit: I cannot reply to barbazoo so will edit here - you still haven't provided me 5 names who "pay well".
      - barbazoo 4y ago
        It obviously depends on where you live and what you consider good pay. I get that. Personally, being in the situation of earning >2x the median household income where I live, which is one of the HCOL areas in NA, I consider myself unimaginably lucky. But that level of income isn't uncommon here for senior devs.
      - layer8 4y ago
        You are not seriously claiming that there are less than 6 companies that “pay well”.
        RestlessMind 4y ago
        I never claimed that. Just want to know the actual alternatives to test OP's claim about well-paying companies which don't make world shittier.
        saberience 4y ago
        Could also go and work for a hedgefund, pays well or better than Meta and doesn't have a negative impact on the world.
        Ancalagon 4y ago
        That depends entirely what the hedgefund is investing in
      - Ancalagon 4y ago
        "Better corp for the world" is subjective. "Pay well" but maybe not quite as well as Meta, and for our purposes I am excluding other FAANGs (except Waymo, sort of I guess): - Roblox - LinkedIn - Robinhood - Databricks - Bytedance - Box - Stripe - Two Sigma - Lyft - Uber - Instacart - Cruise - Doordash - Waymo - Airbnb - Pinterest Companies which imo have a more positive impact on the world than Meta: - Waymo/Cruise (autonomous driving) - LinkedIn - close call, but a more professional social network with the intent of matching employers with employees and taking most of their profits from the advertising of those jobs without influencing global politics - Stripe - value comes from payments processing for companies big and small which is a valuable product in its own right - Lyft/Uber - close call again, but I think the disruption of the taxi industry and the additional options for transportation have really revolutionized how many people get around day-to-day.
- haiti_outlaw 4y ago
  You can also work there and do the bare minimum until you're fired, cashing in some nice paychecks in the meantime.
pwinnski 4y ago
I was contact by a recruiter from FB a couple of years ago. I knew I would never work there, but I talked to the recruiter long enough to get a comp number, and... suddenly my resolve to never work there took another day to firm back up. That's mostly why, I think. In the end, I still said no, but it was much harder with the number in front of me.

by kjok 4y ago

blsapologist42 4y ago

My friend works there. In 2021 they made $1.5 million. Last year it was less I guess with the stock drop, but still, I can't fault them.

temende 4y ago

Probably because they pretty consistently had the highest total compensation packages for engineers.

barbazoo 4y ago

People will say it's their compensation but there are many many places that pay well that don't make the world a shittier place. One doesn't have to sell their soul to the highest bidder.

RestlessMind 4y ago
> there are many many places Can you please name 5 of those alternatives which pay as well as Facebook and yet are a better corp for the world?
- Ancalagon 4y ago
  Nit: they did say "pay well" not "pay as well". "Pay well" might mean less than Meta but still at a comfortable level, subjectively.
  - RestlessMind 4y ago
    Okay, let's start with "pay well" then. Edit: I cannot reply to barbazoo so will edit here - you still haven't provided me 5 names who "pay well".
    - barbazoo 4y ago
      It obviously depends on where you live and what you consider good pay. I get that. Personally, being in the situation of earning >2x the median household income where I live, which is one of the HCOL areas in NA, I consider myself unimaginably lucky. But that level of income isn't uncommon here for senior devs.
    - layer8 4y ago
      You are not seriously claiming that there are less than 6 companies that “pay well”.
      - RestlessMind 4y ago
        I never claimed that. Just want to know the actual alternatives to test OP's claim about well-paying companies which don't make world shittier.
        saberience 4y ago
        Could also go and work for a hedgefund, pays well or better than Meta and doesn't have a negative impact on the world.
        Ancalagon 4y ago
        That depends entirely what the hedgefund is investing in
    - Ancalagon 4y ago
      "Better corp for the world" is subjective. "Pay well" but maybe not quite as well as Meta, and for our purposes I am excluding other FAANGs (except Waymo, sort of I guess): - Roblox - LinkedIn - Robinhood - Databricks - Bytedance - Box - Stripe - Two Sigma - Lyft - Uber - Instacart - Cruise - Doordash - Waymo - Airbnb - Pinterest Companies which imo have a more positive impact on the world than Meta: - Waymo/Cruise (autonomous driving) - LinkedIn - close call, but a more professional social network with the intent of matching employers with employees and taking most of their profits from the advertising of those jobs without influencing global politics - Stripe - value comes from payments processing for companies big and small which is a valuable product in its own right - Lyft/Uber - close call again, but I think the disruption of the taxi industry and the additional options for transportation have really revolutionized how many people get around day-to-day.
haiti_outlaw 4y ago
You can also work there and do the bare minimum until you're fired, cashing in some nice paychecks in the meantime.

pwinnski 4y ago

I was contact by a recruiter from FB a couple of years ago. I knew I would never work there, but I talked to the recruiter long enough to get a comp number, and... suddenly my resolve to never work there took another day to firm back up. That's mostly why, I think. In the end, I still said no, but it was much harder with the number in front of me.