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I'm curious why this was flagged and removed from the HN homepage.

josefresco 4y ago
Me too! I clicked through, read the thread, came back to HN and it was gone! I resubmitted and it took me here. Maybe dang will chime in.
- lapcat 4y ago
  > Maybe dang will chime in. According to dang, flags almost invariably come from HN users, not from HN moderators. It was the Musk fans.
fabian2k 4y ago
Flagging seems rather arbitrary at times here. There is the vouching feature to counteract this, but I don't see the option right now. I'm not sure if this is only available if the post is dead entirely, or what other restrictions this has.
Veen 4y ago
It's annoying, but I can see why it was flagged. The thread isn't going to be very interesting. It'll just be a bunch of people being rude about Musk (justifiably) and a bunch of people excusing his behavior.
- lapcat 4y ago
  > The thread isn't going to be very interesting. I was going to reply and say that it's important for people to see the tweets anyway, but then I realized that the people most in need of seeing the tweets are the ones who did see them and flagged this submission. I wonder if there are any "undecideds" remaining, or if everyone here has already sorted into pro-Musk/anti-Musk groups? I heard some people started to change their minds about Trump after he mocked a disabled reporter, so I don't know.
- runarberg 4y ago
  This is about a person working in tech that started a successful startup company, and was fired from another tech company which acquired the former. The firing is really public, and of questionable morality (perhaps even questionable legality), where the CEO of the bigger company is trying to publicly humiliate his worker. This is indeed very interesting to HN (you can see that by the number of upvotes and comments). It touches on what we can expect when working in tech, and how tech billionaires treat their workers. The low value comments about Elon being rude or justifying his behavior will be voted down as they are less interesting than the actual matter at hand.
  - Veen 4y ago
    They won't be voted down though. I made two rude comments about Musk in this thread and they got almost 60 upvotes between them.
masklinn 4y ago
Because the musk simps are out in force.
- dang 4y ago
  Could you please stop posting flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments? We're trying for something else here. Even when the topic is this flammable, such a comment stands out as low-value, and is the kind of thing we rate-limit accounts for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
  - hn2017 4y ago
    Will you be doing anything to handle the brigading that is happening?
    - dang 4y ago
      Internet users are much too quick (like, orders of magnitude too quick) to jump to conclusions about things like that. That's why the site guidelines ask people not to post suspicions without evidence, like you did here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35063457 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35063457 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35063442 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35063442 ... but rather to email us at hn@ycombinator.com if they think they're seeing manipulation or abuse. We're happy to look at the data in such cases. I can tell you from long experience, though, that in threads on divisive topics, the Occamesque explanation is almost always adequate.
bm3719 4y ago
I clicked flag to help the site stay focused on actual tech over Twitter drama. Maybe it's a personal failing on my part, but I used to live in blissful ignorance of what Musk was up to today. Would like to go back to that at some point. If I did care, it's easy enough to follow him on Twitter.
- lapcat 4y ago
  But... you're still here in the thread, reading and commenting. How does that make sense?
dang 4y ago
Users flagged it. We can only guess why users flag things, but I don't think it's hard to guess in this case; it's a rage thread about a frequent rage topic. More here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35060935 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35060935
hn2017 4y ago
Musk and right wingers are brigading and gaming the system. HN is easily gamed in this way, just like any social media. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/charliewarzel/how-the-alt-right-manipulates-disqus-comment-threads https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/charliewarzel/how-the-a...

Me too! I clicked through, read the thread, came back to HN and it was gone! I resubmitted and it took me here. Maybe dang will chime in.

lapcat 4y ago
> Maybe dang will chime in. According to dang, flags almost invariably come from HN users, not from HN moderators. It was the Musk fans.

fabian2k 4y ago

Flagging seems rather arbitrary at times here. There is the vouching feature to counteract this, but I don't see the option right now. I'm not sure if this is only available if the post is dead entirely, or what other restrictions this has.

Veen 4y ago

It's annoying, but I can see why it was flagged. The thread isn't going to be very interesting. It'll just be a bunch of people being rude about Musk (justifiably) and a bunch of people excusing his behavior.

lapcat 4y ago
> The thread isn't going to be very interesting. I was going to reply and say that it's important for people to see the tweets anyway, but then I realized that the people most in need of seeing the tweets are the ones who did see them and flagged this submission. I wonder if there are any "undecideds" remaining, or if everyone here has already sorted into pro-Musk/anti-Musk groups? I heard some people started to change their minds about Trump after he mocked a disabled reporter, so I don't know.
runarberg 4y ago
This is about a person working in tech that started a successful startup company, and was fired from another tech company which acquired the former. The firing is really public, and of questionable morality (perhaps even questionable legality), where the CEO of the bigger company is trying to publicly humiliate his worker. This is indeed very interesting to HN (you can see that by the number of upvotes and comments). It touches on what we can expect when working in tech, and how tech billionaires treat their workers. The low value comments about Elon being rude or justifying his behavior will be voted down as they are less interesting than the actual matter at hand.
- Veen 4y ago
  They won't be voted down though. I made two rude comments about Musk in this thread and they got almost 60 upvotes between them.

masklinn 4y ago

Because the musk simps are out in force.

dang 4y ago
Could you please stop posting flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments? We're trying for something else here. Even when the topic is this flammable, such a comment stands out as low-value, and is the kind of thing we rate-limit accounts for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- hn2017 4y ago
  Will you be doing anything to handle the brigading that is happening?
  - dang 4y ago
    Internet users are much too quick (like, orders of magnitude too quick) to jump to conclusions about things like that. That's why the site guidelines ask people not to post suspicions without evidence, like you did here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35063457 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35063457 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35063442 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35063442 ... but rather to email us at hn@ycombinator.com if they think they're seeing manipulation or abuse. We're happy to look at the data in such cases. I can tell you from long experience, though, that in threads on divisive topics, the Occamesque explanation is almost always adequate.

bm3719 4y ago

I clicked flag to help the site stay focused on actual tech over Twitter drama. Maybe it's a personal failing on my part, but I used to live in blissful ignorance of what Musk was up to today. Would like to go back to that at some point. If I did care, it's easy enough to follow him on Twitter.

lapcat 4y ago
But... you're still here in the thread, reading and commenting. How does that make sense?

dang 4y ago

Users flagged it. We can only guess why users flag things, but I don't think it's hard to guess in this case; it's a rage thread about a frequent rage topic. More here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35060935 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35060935

hn2017 4y ago

Musk and right wingers are brigading and gaming the system. HN is easily gamed in this way, just like any social media. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/charliewarzel/how-the-alt-right-manipulates-disqus-comment-threads https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/charliewarzel/how-the-a...