> Saying that proper university did not exist before 11th century is disingenuous at its best and propaganda at its worst. I'd say that Plato's Academy is a go

> Saying that proper university did not exist before 11th century is disingenuous at its best and propaganda at its worst. I'd say that Plato's Academy is a good candidate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_Academy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_Academy Claiming, as you do, that everything was Muslim/Arab is clearly "disingenuous at its best and propaganda at its worst". (Others have already disproven your etymological claims.)