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> An internal combustion engine (ICE) replacement cost is ~$7000. It is much more complex than an electric motor. In addition, ICE cars have very complex transm
by asguy 4y ago
> An internal combustion engine (ICE) replacement cost is ~$7000. It is much more complex than an electric motor. In addition, ICE cars have very complex transmissions (replacement cost ~$5000). You also have exhaust and emission control systems, which EVs do not have, radiator/cooling systems, etc., etc., etc.
My last ICE car I bought new had a 10 year/100k mile powertrain and emissions warranty; I haven't had to replace the engine or transmission yet (which would be much more expensive than the article's quoted price). My recently purchased English-made "beater" SUV is 22 years old, and has 155k miles on it. I had to swap the radiator, drag link, and brake booster reservoir: my out of pocket was $1500. Obviously my points are anecdata, but leading with their examples feels like a massive EV cope. Outside of non-911 performance cars (I'm looking at you recent BMWs, Mercedes, Volvo cars and Porsche SUVs) ICEs have become insanely reliable: the engine isn't the weak link. Whether you're buying an ICE or EV, you still have to pay for: suspension, brakes, tires, windshield wipers, and "life support" parts.
EVs owner should lead with the fact they get to push emissions output to the electric grid (which hopefully will become better because we can focus on centralized improvements) and they should continue looking improve the reality that battery production has a huge environmental and human cost (but could be made to get better).
- cjrp 4y ago> EVs owner should lead with the fact they get to push emissions output to the electric grid (which hopefully will become better because we can focus on centralized improvements) and they should continue looking improve the reality that battery production has a huge environmental and human cost (but could be made to get better). Tyre debris/pollution is starting to look like the next thing to be tackled[0], and EVs seem worse in that regard (heavier, and with wider tyres to cope with the extra torque). [0] https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/drivers-could-soon-face-paying-a-tyre-tax-to-help-tackle-emissions/ https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/drivers-could...
- DanielVZ 4y agoAlso anecdotal but in my experience English made car maintenance is awfully costly.
- asguy 4y agoYah.. you compound this with English/German hybrid electrical system design from 20 years ago, and it rapidly becomes something too expensive to pay a mechanic to fix.
- rs999gti 4y agoHe also forgot to mention that ICE repair and maintenance is very common and thus very cheap to do. This is why he references a complete engine replacement.