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Meanwhile, a new iPhone jailbreak was downloaded over a million times in three days - http://9to5mac.com/2012/01/23/a5-jailbreak-absinthe-installed-almost-1-mil

Meanwhile, a new iPhone jailbreak was downloaded over a million times in three days - http://9to5mac.com/2012/01/23/a5-jailbreak-absinthe-installed-almost-1-million-times-over-the-last-3-days/ http://9to5mac.com/2012/01/23/a5-jailbreak-absinthe-installe.... But really, infering the intentions of the users d/l-ing Cyanogen is ridiculous. A million downloads is exactly the tiny fraction of the population that you would expect to tinker and modify.

mike-cardwell 15y ago
I've never had an iPhone, so I could be wrong here, but... Isn't an iPhone jailbreak just a hack to let you install arbitrary apps? If I'm right, than your comparison is silly. Cyanogenmod is a complete replacement operating system...
- batista 15y ago
  His comparison is apt. When "just a hack" has more downloads in much less time that a "complete replacement operating system", the numbers are not in your favor.
  - mike-cardwell 15y ago
    No, it's about as "apt" as comparing Cyanogenmod installations to Angry Bird downloads.
    - batista 15y ago
      This also sounds totally apt. If just a game on one OS platform has orders of magnitudes more downloads that your OS, then your OS is nowhere near as popular as the other OS. Are people unfamiliar with the notion of subsets? Two sets doesn't have to contain the same type of items. If the type of set A is a subset of the type of B, and the number of items on A is bigger, then A is bigger than B for every supertype too.
pavelkaroukin 15y ago
Jailbreaking should be compared to "rooting" in android world. And only fraction of users who rooted their phone install CyanogenMod. What do other users, who rooted their phone? I, for example, installed OpenVPN. I had to have "su" access in order to do that. But I do not plan to install CyanogenMod any time soon simply because of lack of the time. So... 1 million of Cyanogen users is pretty significant number in fact.
bryanlarsen 15y ago
The big difference between installing an iPhone jailbreak and CyanogenMOD is that once on Cyanogen you stay there. With a jailbroken iPhone you often have to choose whether to stay with the jailbreak or upgrade, and many choose the upgrade. OTOH, pretty much the only time Cyanogen gets replaced with stock firmware is when you're prepping a phone for resale or warranty work. Otherwise pretty much the only thing that people replace Cyanogen with are other MOD's. What I'm saying is that 1 million number is firm -- always a consideration when targeting a market. The other consideration is that a lot of the people jailbreaking their iPhone are doing it to pirate apps. (Although tethering is probably also popular). OTOH, many of the 1 million installing Cyanogen are tinkerers. So apps targeting those tinkerers may sell well. Targeting pirates is harder.

mike-cardwell 15y ago

I've never had an iPhone, so I could be wrong here, but... Isn't an iPhone jailbreak just a hack to let you install arbitrary apps? If I'm right, than your comparison is silly. Cyanogenmod is a complete replacement operating system...

batista 15y ago
His comparison is apt. When "just a hack" has more downloads in much less time that a "complete replacement operating system", the numbers are not in your favor.
- mike-cardwell 15y ago
  No, it's about as "apt" as comparing Cyanogenmod installations to Angry Bird downloads.
  - batista 15y ago
    This also sounds totally apt. If just a game on one OS platform has orders of magnitudes more downloads that your OS, then your OS is nowhere near as popular as the other OS. Are people unfamiliar with the notion of subsets? Two sets doesn't have to contain the same type of items. If the type of set A is a subset of the type of B, and the number of items on A is bigger, then A is bigger than B for every supertype too.

pavelkaroukin 15y ago

Jailbreaking should be compared to "rooting" in android world. And only fraction of users who rooted their phone install CyanogenMod. What do other users, who rooted their phone? I, for example, installed OpenVPN. I had to have "su" access in order to do that. But I do not plan to install CyanogenMod any time soon simply because of lack of the time. So... 1 million of Cyanogen users is pretty significant number in fact.

bryanlarsen 15y ago

The big difference between installing an iPhone jailbreak and CyanogenMOD is that once on Cyanogen you stay there. With a jailbroken iPhone you often have to choose whether to stay with the jailbreak or upgrade, and many choose the upgrade. OTOH, pretty much the only time Cyanogen gets replaced with stock firmware is when you're prepping a phone for resale or warranty work. Otherwise pretty much the only thing that people replace Cyanogen with are other MOD's. What I'm saying is that 1 million number is firm -- always a consideration when targeting a market. The other consideration is that a lot of the people jailbreaking their iPhone are doing it to pirate apps. (Although tethering is probably also popular). OTOH, many of the 1 million installing Cyanogen are tinkerers. So apps targeting those tinkerers may sell well. Targeting pirates is harder.