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I ran a Discord community that had the privilege of being "permanently banned" from Discord for "distributing cheats" for a game, which was reversed when we exp
by Shank 4y ago
I ran a Discord community that had the privilege of being "permanently banned" from Discord for "distributing cheats" for a game, which was reversed when we explained that no, we actually distribute anticheat software, and discussed cheats quite heavily in order to ensure that the anticheat software was effective. While the ban was reversed after much campaigning and cajoling, Discord Trust & Safety informed us that the data was lost forever.
Unfortunately, we just couldn't back down from the demands to have a discord server, and thus, one was eventually recreated. But the point stands: if you're in a Discord server of sufficient size for something you care about, take note that it can go up in-smoke. If it's a software project, you owe it to yourself to at least have GitHub Discussions so that people aren't railroaded into Discord for everything.
- Slighted 4y ago>Unfortunately, we just couldn't back down from the demands to have a discord server Except you could've, and still can. People need to learn how to adapt. There's no reason a Discord server is necessary for distributing and discussing anticheat software. Thousands of much larger, more important projects are doing just fine without Discord™ servers, and part of it is the people with influence putting their feet down at the mention of Discord, a glorified spyware platform populated with the socially deprived. Discord is rarely ever a key piece of infrastructure necessary for advertising and documentation for the majority of projects that have one attached to themselves.
- RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u 4y ago> Except you could've, and still can. For many scenes, the community is an integral part of the ecosystem. Unless OP is the only person who can develop anti-cheat software, s/he's beholden to the community even if s/he's among the leader(s). > People need to learn how to adapt. They will adapt by starting their own Discord and cutting OP out.
- bombcar 4y agoThis is exactly it. I’m in a few forums that insist on no discord and unless you go out of your way to provide a chat alternative there will just be unofficial discords. Discord is a cancer.
- the_af 4y agoSadly. The good news is that you'll have additional fragmentation with facebook groups and reddit, all overlapping your community so that no two groups are exactly the same! If you want to post an update to the community for $thing, you must remember the Discord, Facebook group and reddit sub! "Hey guys, we already have a reddit sub, do we really need a facebook group?" "Well, if you don't mind I'll go create an unofficial $thing fb group!" (Bonus points if you subscribe to all and get to see the same content being posted to every venue, with somewhat the same people reacting to it. It boggles the mind)
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- BlueTemplar 4y agoYou are making it worse yourself by posting your updates on those walled gardens.
- the_af 4y agoYes. But I mean, these are not communities I created myself. Whatever the platform (phpbb, reddit, fb, etc) I always witness a sizeable portion of the community split away to something else (Discord, etc). It's maddening.
- bombcar 4y agoIt always ends up being a doomed if you do, doomed if you don't. If you don't post on those groups or create them, they get created anyway, and now they exist and you have no direct influence on them; and that can easily result in a community misunderstanding and split. And if you do create them, you've encouraged walled gardening and there will STILL be stuff not duplicated.
- INTPenis 4y agoDiscord is huge with the kids today. I saw my nephew kept checking his phone and like a typical old fart I challenged him and asked what the hell he's checking. Turns out it's discord. He subscribes to channels on discord, some are read-only, just a way of distributing notifications. The draw is the single sign on. You sign on to one simple service and you have all your friends, all the games you follow, all the groups.
- shitlord 4y agoWhy does Discord even care if you're discussing/distributing cheats, so long as you obey the law? Who exactly is the Trust & Safety team supposed to serve?
- phendrenad2 4y agoDMCA takedown notices take up employee time, so maybe they formed this team to preemptively shut down anything that looks like it might cause DMCA notices to come in.
- Gigachad 4y agoDiscord has been banning groups for discussing breaking the rules in games completely unrelated to discord.
- voxic11 4y agoMany cheats violate copyright licenses and the DMCA's anti-circumvention provisions. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/bungie-wins-lawsuit-against-cheat-maker-awarded-usd13-5-million http://www.gamesindustry.biz/bungie-wins-lawsuit-against-che...
- busterarm 4y agoThis is the same Discord Trust and Safety team that was defending and participating in communities sharing cub content. Wonderful.
- throwaway675309 4y agoWhat in the nine hells is "cub content"? Are we talking about drawn pictures of animals or actual bestiality? One of these is illegal, and the other is... what like Fievel Mousekewitz goes wild?
- lightedman 4y agoFievel Mousekowitz Goes Wild is putting it.... mildly.
- Saris 4y agoDrawn pictures, it's not illegal but it is a bit weird.
- BlueTemplar 4y agoYou lost me at GitHub : sure, the public part of it is being crawled, but it's still a platform (and a Microsoft-owned one to boot !), so if you care about the Web or libre software, you should stay the hell out of it, regardless of the sub-feature you use.
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- slim 4y agoYou mean there's no way to have a bot that logs conversations in discord?
- DangitBobby 4y agoThere is. And they are actually quite easy to make. I would suggest this approach to anyone worried about losing information.