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Not exactly related to the OP, but: I think I speak for a large number of folks when I say that we don't care. The EU keeps passing all sorts of absurd laws th
by alex_sf 4y ago
Not exactly related to the OP, but: I think I speak for a large number of folks when I say that we don't care. The EU keeps passing all sorts of absurd laws that require dedicated auditors to comply with. It's just not going to happen. If they decide to actively enforce these things, they'll just isolate themselves from the rest of the world.
- ricardobeat 4y agoAs an EEUU resident, we also don't care. We can survive without youtube and instagram and the whole surveillance industry. Some of the laws place a heavy burden on giant tech companies, but for good reason.
- alex_sf 4y agoThey place a burden on everyone. A burden that's going to create a two-tier internet where service is immediately refused to EU citizens by every provider except the giant tech companies that can afford to comply.
- Timon3 4y agoWhy exactly is it seemingly so expensive not to sell your customer data?
- alex_sf 4y agoThat's not the issue. I don't want to see personal data sold either. It's all the little rules. There are hundreds of pages just in GDPR. You need a banner and explicit opt-in just to support login/logout functionality.
- Timon3 4y agoCan you explain why you believe this to be the case? Let's say you log the user in. Yes, you need consent to store a login cookie, but that doesn't mean you need "a banner and explicit opt-in". You only need explicit opt-in, which you can do by... putting a "remember me" box next to your login form[1]. Is that really so hard? [1] https://law.stackexchange.com/a/32157 https://law.stackexchange.com/a/32157
- tpxl 4y ago> giant tech companies that can afford to comply Where does this sentiment come from? Cost of compliance for Facebook is many orders of magnitude higher than cost of compliance for a website for your hairdresser or a restaurant. In my startup, GDPR was barely a blip on our radar. We had to delete website logs and that's about that. You have to keep record of customers/payment information for laws that supersede GDPR, and that's it if you run a legitimate business not reliant on stealing.
- alex_sf 4y agoThis simply isn't true. Look at the absurdity of all the cookie banners just to support basic login functionality. I'm all for internet privacy, but these laws are so sweeping that it's impossible to be compliant without a dedicated function for it.
- lawik 4y agoNo need for cookie banners for functionality like login. Ref: https://law.stackexchange.com/a/32157 https://law.stackexchange.com/a/32157
- quicksilver03 4y agoClose, the giant tech companies may or may not comply but they surely can afford the fines that the various EU Data Protection authorities dream into reality by twisting an ever-changing body of interpretation of ambiguously written rules.
- strken 4y agoThat's a nice theory, but it may not survive the next few decades of regulatory capture by the same type of company you believe it's intended to act against.
- Kiro 4y agoYou don't speak for me. I don't want to live without YouTube.
- arlort 4y agoWhere are you from that you use EEUU as an acronym?
- SZJX 4y agoInteresting that "EEUU" from my knowledge mostly refers to the US (Estados Unidos) in a Spanish context. The abbreviation for European Union would be UE (Unión Europea) right.
- ricardobeat 4y agoOops. Late-night brainfart, I'm a portuguese speaker and got things a bit mixed up :)