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If any state is being propagandized into secession it's Florida right now. They, however, find themselves in a race with mother nature to see who will remove t
by edrxty 4y ago
If any state is being propagandized into secession it's Florida right now.
They, however, find themselves in a race with mother nature to see who will remove them from the continental US first.
- solarpunk 4y agoI think you and GP should be aware of Calexit https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_California https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_California
- yogthos 4y agoThe point here is that this is the equivalent of what US is doing, and something US would never tolerate itself. Just imagine for a second if China set up equivalent of NED and USAID, started funding political campaigns in Texas or Florida, and so on. This is what US is currently doing. US is blatantly interfering in Chinese internal politics and violating Chinese sovereignty while acting as if US has some god given right to meddle in other countries. It's absolutely surreal.
- DennisP 4y agoIf the people of Taiwan want to be independent, then it seems a bit paternalistic to assume that it's only because of US propaganda.
- yogthos 4y agoNo, we can assume that because of long and well documented history of US interfering in Taiwan and pouring billions of dollars into creating a secessionist movement there.
- brazzy 4y agoNo, we can assume that Taiwan is an independant sovereign country in its own right according to the will of its people. The one pouring billions into creating a secessionist movement there is China.
- yogthos 4y agoJust like we can assume that Texas or Florida are independant sovereign countries in their own right according to the will of their people. Once DeSantis gets his private army going, I'll remember to cheer for Flordia's freedom and independence https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/02/politics/florida-state-guard-desantis/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/02/politics/florida-state-guard-...
- brazzy 4y agoExcept Florida and Texas have actually been part of the USA for centuries, while Taiwan has never been part of the PRC and has existed as a de facto sovereign country as long as the PRC has. Plus only a clear minority of the people of Texas or Florida actually wants to secede, whereas a large majority of Taiwanese wants to remain an independent country.
- ashwagary 4y agoHawaii also has a massive secessionist movement since the original inhabitants never elected to join the US.
- VincentEvans 4y agoIt’s only surreal if you subscribe to the notion of might makes right. US prevents the change of status quo to be done by force. A diplomatic solution is in everyone’s interest.
- yogthos 4y agoMight makes right has literally been the policy US has pursued throughout its history. What US is doing is creating a tension half way across the world from itself by funding and arming a separatist movement in a Chinese province. This is something US would never tolerate being done on its own territory.
- brazzy 4y agoA "separatist movement" that encompasses the majority of the population of a "province" that was never fully under Chinese control. You are spreading Chinese propaganda lies.