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If you're suggesting that the University of Bologna was secular (not religious) in the 11th century, then that is misleading. > then hired scholars from the ci

If you're suggesting that the University of Bologna was secular (not religious) in the 11th century, then that is misleading. > then hired scholars from the city's pre-existing lay and ecclesiastical schools to teach them subjects such as liberal arts, notarial law, theology, and ars dictaminis (scrivenery) > The university is historically notable for its teaching of canon and civil law Please note the phrases .. ecclesiastical schools .. & .. teaching of canon .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Bologna https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Bologna It seems reasonable religion (as we define it today) & culture were intertwined to a far greater degree in 10th-15th century Europe in ways similar to Nalanda & Al-Qarawiyin in their times. It does not seem simple to define exactly when all these institutions passed that rubicon that separates "religious schools" from what the word "university" means.

mytailorisrich 4y ago
> If you're suggesting that the University of Bologna was secular (not religious) in the 11th century, then that is misleading. I interpret "religious school" as a school that teaches religion (a 'madrasa' in Islam). It seems that Al-Qarawiyin was mostly that during most of its history though not only (and it was founded as a mosque): "Among the subjects taught around this period or shortly after were traditional religious subjects such as the Quran and fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence), and other sciences like grammar, rhetoric, logic, medicine, mathematics, astronomy and geography." [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_al-Qarawiyyin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_al-Qarawiyyin
PeterisP 4y ago
Please note all the other phrases in the fragments you're quoting - Bologna is not a religious school (which is different from being a secular, non-religious school, that would be a false dichotomy) because there theology was just one of the disciplines as it also included a multitude of topics in addition to religion, in contrast to the many contemporary religious schools around the world which taught only priests.
- cafed00d 4y ago
  > Please note all the other phrases in the fragments you're quoting - Bologna is not a religious school .. Those fragments are simultaneously true for Nalanda or any other school too.
- howinteresting 4y ago
  Nalanda covered many non-religious topics as well?

mytailorisrich 4y ago

> If you're suggesting that the University of Bologna was secular (not religious) in the 11th century, then that is misleading. I interpret "religious school" as a school that teaches religion (a 'madrasa' in Islam). It seems that Al-Qarawiyin was mostly that during most of its history though not only (and it was founded as a mosque): "Among the subjects taught around this period or shortly after were traditional religious subjects such as the Quran and fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence), and other sciences like grammar, rhetoric, logic, medicine, mathematics, astronomy and geography." [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_al-Qarawiyyin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_al-Qarawiyyin

PeterisP 4y ago

Please note all the other phrases in the fragments you're quoting - Bologna is not a religious school (which is different from being a secular, non-religious school, that would be a false dichotomy) because there theology was just one of the disciplines as it also included a multitude of topics in addition to religion, in contrast to the many contemporary religious schools around the world which taught only priests.

cafed00d 4y ago
> Please note all the other phrases in the fragments you're quoting - Bologna is not a religious school .. Those fragments are simultaneously true for Nalanda or any other school too.
howinteresting 4y ago
Nalanda covered many non-religious topics as well?