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>Trucks have gone from the cargo bed being >60% of the usable length (ignoring the engine), to the (crew) cab being >60% of the useable length. Pickup trucks go

>Trucks have gone from the cargo bed being >60% of the usable length (ignoring the engine), to the (crew) cab being >60% of the useable length. Pickup trucks gone from thing-haulers to people-haulers, in which case, why bother with that form factor? The bed was always a mixed-use people hauler. Then they made that illegal. Go to Mexico, Iraq, Philippines and other places where it's still tolerated or legal in most places and the bed continues to be a people hauler. It's in part the cab got bigger because you couldn't put the people in the bed anymore, not because more people started riding in the trucks. If you want more bed and less cab again, make it legal for the passengers, kids, etc to ride in the bed again. Like we did when I was a kid. If not, don't be surprised when you make something illegal people adapt the vehicle to deal with it.

throw0101a 4y ago
> If you want more bed and less cab again, make it legal for the passengers, kids, etc to ride in the bed again. Like we did when I was a kid. If not, don't be surprised when you make something illegal people adapt the vehicle to deal with it. Ah yes: let's drive down the interstate at ≥60 mph (100kph) to grandma's house with all the kids in the bed. Great idea. Would you like to also bring back leaded gasoline? Or perhaps non-farmers / non-construction workers can stop pretending they regularly need a cargo bed and get a station wagon or minivan. The top-selling car in 2022 was the Ford F-150, the top selling car in 1982 was Ford Escort: I'm having a hard time believing that people's hauling needs have changed in the intervening decades to rationally justify the sales figures.
- notch898a 4y ago
  So we've established 1) You're in favor of better safety for passengers, which would mean better to put them in cab than bed. 2) You're against "pretending" need for carge bed, which would mean reducing or eliminating bed as fraction of full size of vehicle. Put the two together and we see increasing fractional (%) cab sizes and decreasing fractional (%) bed size. which means we're getting exactly what you asked for. And you act surprised that when people get what they ask for, sales are better?

throw0101a 4y ago

> If you want more bed and less cab again, make it legal for the passengers, kids, etc to ride in the bed again. Like we did when I was a kid. If not, don't be surprised when you make something illegal people adapt the vehicle to deal with it. Ah yes: let's drive down the interstate at ≥60 mph (100kph) to grandma's house with all the kids in the bed. Great idea. Would you like to also bring back leaded gasoline? Or perhaps non-farmers / non-construction workers can stop pretending they regularly need a cargo bed and get a station wagon or minivan. The top-selling car in 2022 was the Ford F-150, the top selling car in 1982 was Ford Escort: I'm having a hard time believing that people's hauling needs have changed in the intervening decades to rationally justify the sales figures.

notch898a 4y ago
So we've established 1) You're in favor of better safety for passengers, which would mean better to put them in cab than bed. 2) You're against "pretending" need for carge bed, which would mean reducing or eliminating bed as fraction of full size of vehicle. Put the two together and we see increasing fractional (%) cab sizes and decreasing fractional (%) bed size. which means we're getting exactly what you asked for. And you act surprised that when people get what they ask for, sales are better?