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I don't think I could have predicted - even given the wanton layoffs - that the service would deteriorate so quickly across the board. I barely use the app any

I don't think I could have predicted - even given the wanton layoffs - that the service would deteriorate so quickly across the board. I barely use the app anymore and half the time stuff isn't loading at all or is broken in obvious, overt ways. Just ... stunning.

manquer 4y ago
It not just the layoffs it is also the major changes Elon is forcing through at high speed . Hiring for twitter is going to be quite expensive, nobody is taking this up without huge payoff and probably upfront given Elon pre disposition not to honor severance etc
- sf_rob 4y ago
  He seems to be of the belief that Twitter's issues are bottom line not top line. Hiring would require a major shift in belief.
  - manquer 4y ago
    There is so only firing you can do and attrition you can handle before you have to start replacing staff . Either he shuts it down at the point or he has to spend a lot of money . IMO More likely he shuts down and blame any range of external factors were conspiring to take him down rather than accept he decisions were wrong
billti 4y ago
> half the time stuff isn't loading at all or is broken in obvious, overt ways I use the app for a couple hours a day (according to my iPhone weekly reports), and have barely noticed any degradation since "the takeover". (Notwithstanding the obvious outage happening currently). There's been a few minor glitches for sure, but then what large service is immune? Facebook, Exchange, AWS, etc. have all had notable outages this past year, and the Apple Services I regularly use (Apple Music, Siri, etc.) "fail" more often for me in daily use. Maybe you're trying to do something more advanced than me, or are using a less reliable platform somehow, but generally I find all the "Twitter is so dead" talk being confirmation bias from folks that really want it to fail in light of recent changes.
- nkozyra 4y ago
  > Maybe you're trying to do something more advanced than me, or are using a less reliable platform somehow, but generally I find all the "Twitter is so dead" talk being confirmation bias from folks that really want it to fail in light of recent changes. In my ideal world, Twitter - or something similar - succeeds. I don't care much about the politics of the ownership because that's generally going to be an iffy subject with anything coming from the valley. But to regularly use it and not see things breaking here and there every day (not even including the times when the API is borked or it's only recommending Elon Tweets in your feed or a person's timeline won't load no matter what, not being able to send a tweet, etc.) ... I have to imagine you're very lucky. There was about 11 hours when people had exceeded their daily tweet quota by trying to send a single tweet. You don't remember stuff like that? It happens multiple times a week in the last few months. I'm certainly not doing anything advanced. I'm mostly a casual user.
  - aniforprez 4y ago
    I can corroborate. Videos struggle to load, timeline doesn't refresh unless you pull down multiple times, my current position gets lost multiple times forcing me to scroll down and then scroll back up, tweets showing up multiple times, many more ads than before and so on It's really been kind of miserable to use the app and I only open it once or twice a day. It had issues before but never all at once like this
- tashoecraft 4y ago
  I've never seen a large company whose entire existence is a single app perform so poorly. It was down for me a whole day a week or so ago. Bugs are pretty rampant, they're small, but didn't happen to me previously. It's just been gradual degradation for months now. Idk how you aren't noticing.
anonuser123456 4y ago
As someone that I think the previous twit sphere would accuse of being right wing adjacent, I’m shocked at the dumpster fire that twitter has become from a content standpoint. Like.. wokeness was annoying but the trash heap of craziness it is today is 5 steps backward. My feed is nothing but conspiratorial nonsense. If twitter was “tilted left” before, today it seems to have capsized rightward.
- mikeyouse 4y ago
  Right, it turns out that bringing back a bunch of previously banned trolls will chase more centrist people away, leaving only the trolls and those who like to argue with them. Not sure if there have been algorithm tweaks as well (aside from the obnoxious removal of the sort by latest button Elon swore he'd keep), my feed is the same. Combined with the stupid "Trending" tweaks and it's a worse version of Reddit. I honestly can't believe that not only did he welcome back actual Nazis that were previously banned, but he sold them checkmarks that let them have outsized influence.
sf_rob 4y ago
Elon's own account is that he's "experimenting" with taking production services offline to cut cost and simplify their code base. Essentially a literal Chaos Monkey. With this in mind, service degradations aren't surprising.

manquer 4y ago

It not just the layoffs it is also the major changes Elon is forcing through at high speed . Hiring for twitter is going to be quite expensive, nobody is taking this up without huge payoff and probably upfront given Elon pre disposition not to honor severance etc

sf_rob 4y ago
He seems to be of the belief that Twitter's issues are bottom line not top line. Hiring would require a major shift in belief.
- manquer 4y ago
  There is so only firing you can do and attrition you can handle before you have to start replacing staff . Either he shuts it down at the point or he has to spend a lot of money . IMO More likely he shuts down and blame any range of external factors were conspiring to take him down rather than accept he decisions were wrong

billti 4y ago

> half the time stuff isn't loading at all or is broken in obvious, overt ways I use the app for a couple hours a day (according to my iPhone weekly reports), and have barely noticed any degradation since "the takeover". (Notwithstanding the obvious outage happening currently). There's been a few minor glitches for sure, but then what large service is immune? Facebook, Exchange, AWS, etc. have all had notable outages this past year, and the Apple Services I regularly use (Apple Music, Siri, etc.) "fail" more often for me in daily use. Maybe you're trying to do something more advanced than me, or are using a less reliable platform somehow, but generally I find all the "Twitter is so dead" talk being confirmation bias from folks that really want it to fail in light of recent changes.

nkozyra 4y ago
> Maybe you're trying to do something more advanced than me, or are using a less reliable platform somehow, but generally I find all the "Twitter is so dead" talk being confirmation bias from folks that really want it to fail in light of recent changes. In my ideal world, Twitter - or something similar - succeeds. I don't care much about the politics of the ownership because that's generally going to be an iffy subject with anything coming from the valley. But to regularly use it and not see things breaking here and there every day (not even including the times when the API is borked or it's only recommending Elon Tweets in your feed or a person's timeline won't load no matter what, not being able to send a tweet, etc.) ... I have to imagine you're very lucky. There was about 11 hours when people had exceeded their daily tweet quota by trying to send a single tweet. You don't remember stuff like that? It happens multiple times a week in the last few months. I'm certainly not doing anything advanced. I'm mostly a casual user.
- aniforprez 4y ago
  I can corroborate. Videos struggle to load, timeline doesn't refresh unless you pull down multiple times, my current position gets lost multiple times forcing me to scroll down and then scroll back up, tweets showing up multiple times, many more ads than before and so on It's really been kind of miserable to use the app and I only open it once or twice a day. It had issues before but never all at once like this
tashoecraft 4y ago
I've never seen a large company whose entire existence is a single app perform so poorly. It was down for me a whole day a week or so ago. Bugs are pretty rampant, they're small, but didn't happen to me previously. It's just been gradual degradation for months now. Idk how you aren't noticing.

anonuser123456 4y ago

As someone that I think the previous twit sphere would accuse of being right wing adjacent, I’m shocked at the dumpster fire that twitter has become from a content standpoint. Like.. wokeness was annoying but the trash heap of craziness it is today is 5 steps backward. My feed is nothing but conspiratorial nonsense. If twitter was “tilted left” before, today it seems to have capsized rightward.

mikeyouse 4y ago
Right, it turns out that bringing back a bunch of previously banned trolls will chase more centrist people away, leaving only the trolls and those who like to argue with them. Not sure if there have been algorithm tweaks as well (aside from the obnoxious removal of the sort by latest button Elon swore he'd keep), my feed is the same. Combined with the stupid "Trending" tweaks and it's a worse version of Reddit. I honestly can't believe that not only did he welcome back actual Nazis that were previously banned, but he sold them checkmarks that let them have outsized influence.

sf_rob 4y ago

Elon's own account is that he's "experimenting" with taking production services offline to cut cost and simplify their code base. Essentially a literal Chaos Monkey. With this in mind, service degradations aren't surprising.