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In case people are wondering what this is about: All links and images are not working on twitter right now. Seems like they accidentally included their own serv

In case people are wondering what this is about: All links and images are not working on twitter right now. Seems like they accidentally included their own services in the api blocklist? Sending best of luck to the engineers. The whole twitter saga has given me a good chunk of valuable "lesson learned" over the last weeks and months.. so thanks for that.

secondcoming 4y ago
Everything seems fine for me when I use the main website.
- meowtimemania 4y ago
  I see the issue on iOS
- orra 4y ago
  Are you logged in? Twitter seems to be working normally (i.e. it refreshes) where I'm logged into the browser. But where I'm not, I get the error message everybody's seeing.
- mikeyouse 4y ago
  No new links or images work for me from the main website. Cached stuff seems okay.
- almog 4y ago
  Perhaps it's region specific but I get 467 errors right now for images on both mobile android and desktop web.
  - aniforprez 4y ago
    Definitely region specific I think. It's working mostly fine for me. Links and images are mostly fine except for the errant occasional broken one but even then it's only when opening the full image
  - yk 4y ago
    Doesn't work from Germany right now. (Telekom if that turned out to be important.)
- tsimionescu 4y ago
  Same for me, but accessing Twitter links from Google breaks it. Seems to be related to a query param in my case (if I remove the ?lang=en, the page loads properly).
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
shadowgovt 4y ago
> Sending best of luck to the engineers. ... mostly around the hope they can jump ship before the Titanic pulls them under.
- echelon 4y ago
  Why would you stay at Twitter? Even if you believe in the platform and the mission, this has to be one of the most stressful work environments in tech right now. The only cases I can think of for staying: - Unfortunate H-1Bs tied to the job. (We really need to make it easier for these folks to switch jobs and keep their visa!) - A feeling one needs the job and can't easily get work elsewhere. Perhaps living paycheck to paycheck, haven't interviewed in awhile, imposter syndrome... (If you're worried you'd not be able to get hired, instead ask why you weren't fired.)
  - gedy 4y ago
    (Not at Twitter) Interviewing sucks and many people have other priorities in life, like family, etc.
  - jgust 4y ago
    > Unfortunate H-1Bs tied to the job. Or we could reduce the hoops & cycle time for legal immigration. The US has an opportunity right now to cement itself as the leader in technology for the next 2-3 decades and stave off the impending population growth crisis if we could find a way to enable people who want to live here to live here.
    - fallingknife 4y ago
      I'm not interested in government policy that allows companies to bring in cheap foreign labor to undercut my compensation. There are 330 million people in the us, so if companies need more engineers, they can pay more and train more. Also, there is no population growth crisis. A decreasing population means less stress on the environment and lower housing costs. Yes, there will be economic effects, but it's hardly catastrophic. Japan is managing just fine.
papito 4y ago
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- systemvoltage 4y ago
  Do you just have a gut feeling that they are being abused? I thought the crowd that didn't like working there, left.
  - papito 4y ago
    I guess if you are on a visa. There are some "office heroes" there for sure, and they will probably realize years later that they were abused.
    - MrOwnPut 4y ago
      So they don't realize now they are being abused even though they have first hand experience, but you realize they are being abused because you have what insight exactly? In other words, what exactly do you think the people working there will "realize years later"? Could you specifically list the abuses being done to these engineers that they are unaware of?
      - thebradbain 4y ago
        Usually people choose to stay in abusive situations because they don’t believe they’re being abused, or have convinced themselves they have no better option. That doesn’t change the fact the environment is still abusive. There’s a whole swaths of science and research behind this. It’s why domestic violence can continue for years unknown to anyone, even from friends, until it’s not. OP isn’t saying they’re being abused as a fact, but if they are — at a workplace that seems as objectively toxic as Twitter right now — many who are still there won’t likely realize they were until afterwards.
        MrOwnPut 4y ago
        > Usually people choose to stay in abusive situations because they don’t believe they’re being abused I simply asked OP to list the abuses they think the engineers are unaware of. > OP isn’t saying they’re being abused as a fact, OP literally said "It would feel amazing after this much abuse"
Tostino 4y ago
For someone who has tried to avoid hearing as much as possible about this drama (and didn't notice this was about Twitter until looking at the comments), what are the condensed "lesson learned" takeaways if you don't mind elaborating?
- MrOwnPut 4y ago
  The lesson is if Elon runs Twitter, an hour long downtime takes up everyone's day so we can all speculate. Before, it was "healthy for everyone" when Twitter went down (search hn.algolia.com for pre-Elon Twitter downtime threads) Now it's an episode of Real Housewives just like any other Elon thread on HN.
  - camjohnson26 4y ago
    He created that drama when he tried to gaslight the entire tech industry into thinking 90% of engineering jobs were redundant, you can’t expect anything else than for him to get dunked on when the completely predictable consequences of that play out, namely that the service will get more and more unreliable over time.
    - darthrupert 4y ago
      It does hurt the proud IT worker in me, the knowledge that half of us can be thrown away and almost nobody notices. Perhaps the takeaway is that we should get our shit together. The opposite of r/antiwork.
    - MrOwnPut 4y ago
      No. I think the people creating drama here should take responsibility and act like professionals. No need to pull out terms like gaslighting to justify creating more drama. A 1 hour downtime is nothing.
      - ModernMech 4y ago
        > A 1 hour downtime is nothing. If it’s nothing, why is Musk on Twitter saying the whole codebase is brittle for no reason, and needs a complete rewrite? Sounds like a pretty big deal to me. As far as the drama comment, you’re free to disengage from this thread at any time. No need to continually interject how against the drama you are. Just leave if you find it distasteful.
coliveira 4y ago
Maybe mister "genius" is working his magic by annoying as many people as he can and making Twitter visibly worse before it is finally great again! So people will finally be amazed at how "genius" he really is.
banannaise 4y ago
Seems likely that they used an allowlist rather than a blocklist for the API restriction, and left several critical services out of the allowlist.

secondcoming 4y ago

Everything seems fine for me when I use the main website.

meowtimemania 4y ago
I see the issue on iOS
orra 4y ago
Are you logged in? Twitter seems to be working normally (i.e. it refreshes) where I'm logged into the browser. But where I'm not, I get the error message everybody's seeing.
mikeyouse 4y ago
No new links or images work for me from the main website. Cached stuff seems okay.
almog 4y ago
Perhaps it's region specific but I get 467 errors right now for images on both mobile android and desktop web.
- aniforprez 4y ago
  Definitely region specific I think. It's working mostly fine for me. Links and images are mostly fine except for the errant occasional broken one but even then it's only when opening the full image
- yk 4y ago
  Doesn't work from Germany right now. (Telekom if that turned out to be important.)
tsimionescu 4y ago
Same for me, but accessing Twitter links from Google breaks it. Seems to be related to a query param in my case (if I remove the ?lang=en, the page loads properly).
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]

shadowgovt 4y ago

> Sending best of luck to the engineers. ... mostly around the hope they can jump ship before the Titanic pulls them under.

echelon 4y ago
Why would you stay at Twitter? Even if you believe in the platform and the mission, this has to be one of the most stressful work environments in tech right now. The only cases I can think of for staying: - Unfortunate H-1Bs tied to the job. (We really need to make it easier for these folks to switch jobs and keep their visa!) - A feeling one needs the job and can't easily get work elsewhere. Perhaps living paycheck to paycheck, haven't interviewed in awhile, imposter syndrome... (If you're worried you'd not be able to get hired, instead ask why you weren't fired.)
- gedy 4y ago
  (Not at Twitter) Interviewing sucks and many people have other priorities in life, like family, etc.
- jgust 4y ago
  > Unfortunate H-1Bs tied to the job. Or we could reduce the hoops & cycle time for legal immigration. The US has an opportunity right now to cement itself as the leader in technology for the next 2-3 decades and stave off the impending population growth crisis if we could find a way to enable people who want to live here to live here.
  - fallingknife 4y ago
    I'm not interested in government policy that allows companies to bring in cheap foreign labor to undercut my compensation. There are 330 million people in the us, so if companies need more engineers, they can pay more and train more. Also, there is no population growth crisis. A decreasing population means less stress on the environment and lower housing costs. Yes, there will be economic effects, but it's hardly catastrophic. Japan is managing just fine.

papito 4y ago

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systemvoltage 4y ago
Do you just have a gut feeling that they are being abused? I thought the crowd that didn't like working there, left.
- papito 4y ago
  I guess if you are on a visa. There are some "office heroes" there for sure, and they will probably realize years later that they were abused.
  - MrOwnPut 4y ago
    So they don't realize now they are being abused even though they have first hand experience, but you realize they are being abused because you have what insight exactly? In other words, what exactly do you think the people working there will "realize years later"? Could you specifically list the abuses being done to these engineers that they are unaware of?
    - thebradbain 4y ago
      Usually people choose to stay in abusive situations because they don’t believe they’re being abused, or have convinced themselves they have no better option. That doesn’t change the fact the environment is still abusive. There’s a whole swaths of science and research behind this. It’s why domestic violence can continue for years unknown to anyone, even from friends, until it’s not. OP isn’t saying they’re being abused as a fact, but if they are — at a workplace that seems as objectively toxic as Twitter right now — many who are still there won’t likely realize they were until afterwards.
      - MrOwnPut 4y ago
        > Usually people choose to stay in abusive situations because they don’t believe they’re being abused I simply asked OP to list the abuses they think the engineers are unaware of. > OP isn’t saying they’re being abused as a fact, OP literally said "It would feel amazing after this much abuse"

Tostino 4y ago

For someone who has tried to avoid hearing as much as possible about this drama (and didn't notice this was about Twitter until looking at the comments), what are the condensed "lesson learned" takeaways if you don't mind elaborating?

MrOwnPut 4y ago
The lesson is if Elon runs Twitter, an hour long downtime takes up everyone's day so we can all speculate. Before, it was "healthy for everyone" when Twitter went down (search hn.algolia.com for pre-Elon Twitter downtime threads) Now it's an episode of Real Housewives just like any other Elon thread on HN.
- camjohnson26 4y ago
  He created that drama when he tried to gaslight the entire tech industry into thinking 90% of engineering jobs were redundant, you can’t expect anything else than for him to get dunked on when the completely predictable consequences of that play out, namely that the service will get more and more unreliable over time.
  - darthrupert 4y ago
    It does hurt the proud IT worker in me, the knowledge that half of us can be thrown away and almost nobody notices. Perhaps the takeaway is that we should get our shit together. The opposite of r/antiwork.
  - MrOwnPut 4y ago
    No. I think the people creating drama here should take responsibility and act like professionals. No need to pull out terms like gaslighting to justify creating more drama. A 1 hour downtime is nothing.
    - ModernMech 4y ago
      > A 1 hour downtime is nothing. If it’s nothing, why is Musk on Twitter saying the whole codebase is brittle for no reason, and needs a complete rewrite? Sounds like a pretty big deal to me. As far as the drama comment, you’re free to disengage from this thread at any time. No need to continually interject how against the drama you are. Just leave if you find it distasteful.

coliveira 4y ago

Maybe mister "genius" is working his magic by annoying as many people as he can and making Twitter visibly worse before it is finally great again! So people will finally be amazed at how "genius" he really is.

banannaise 4y ago

Seems likely that they used an allowlist rather than a blocklist for the API restriction, and left several critical services out of the allowlist.