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I really think it would be a lot easier to get away with taking part in two Zoom standups per day from home than from an office.

randomdata 4y ago
Even if you could get away with it, no amount of money is worth having to endure two standups per day.
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- kwhitefoot 4y ago
  When I was working on a team with people from all over Europe our standup was a 15 minute video conference at 09:00 CET. Each of us briefly said what we had done yesterday, what we intended to do today, and mentioned any problems that we thought that someone else might offer some insight into. The team leader would then summarize any concerns that were raised, suggest that person A contact person B to discuss the aforementioned concerns and that was it. We were mostly pretty self motivated but the standup helped us keep moving together. Fifteen minutes or even half an hour at the beginning of the day doesn't seem like much of a chore to me. And this was long before Zoom existed. Can someone explain to me why Zoom is such a big thing? We were using video conferencing in the last century without it.
  - jdminhbg 4y ago
    > And this was long before Zoom existed. Can someone explain to me why Zoom is such a big thing? We were using video conferencing in the last century without it. a) Zoom is very good at reducing the number of clicks between a link in your email and being on a call b) Zoom is easier to say and type than “video conferencing,” so people say it even when the actual application they’re using might differ
    - buggy6257 4y ago
      The number of clicks from a Zoom email to a zoom call: - Click the Link - Click the "Start the meeting button", nothing happens - Click "join meeting from browser" after waitint for it to eventually show me that option - I'm in the meeting! 3 clicks Number of clicks from a Google Meets email to a Zoom call: - Click the Link - I'm in the meeting! 1 click.
Apocryphon 4y ago
Offices tend to have conference rooms and other places for private calls.
- jdminhbg 4y ago
  I'm not saying it's completely impossible, I'm just saying it is, contra OP, more likely that if you are in an office and take a conference room every morning at 10 for 15 minutes that you will be caught, versus working two jobs from home.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    That seems uncontroversial. Plus you probably can't separate the jobs on two different laptops to prevent accidental crossing of the streams--where one or more of those laptops may be managed by a company. Could someone get off with letting some side consulting work bleed into work hours? I'm sure in a lot of cases--though it would be easier at home. But I have to believe that, as in the case of relationships per upthread, working full-time in-person and remote jobs at the same time must start looking to people like something is odd here.

randomdata 4y ago

Even if you could get away with it, no amount of money is worth having to endure two standups per day.

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kwhitefoot 4y ago
When I was working on a team with people from all over Europe our standup was a 15 minute video conference at 09:00 CET. Each of us briefly said what we had done yesterday, what we intended to do today, and mentioned any problems that we thought that someone else might offer some insight into. The team leader would then summarize any concerns that were raised, suggest that person A contact person B to discuss the aforementioned concerns and that was it. We were mostly pretty self motivated but the standup helped us keep moving together. Fifteen minutes or even half an hour at the beginning of the day doesn't seem like much of a chore to me. And this was long before Zoom existed. Can someone explain to me why Zoom is such a big thing? We were using video conferencing in the last century without it.
- jdminhbg 4y ago
  > And this was long before Zoom existed. Can someone explain to me why Zoom is such a big thing? We were using video conferencing in the last century without it. a) Zoom is very good at reducing the number of clicks between a link in your email and being on a call b) Zoom is easier to say and type than “video conferencing,” so people say it even when the actual application they’re using might differ
  - buggy6257 4y ago
    The number of clicks from a Zoom email to a zoom call: - Click the Link - Click the "Start the meeting button", nothing happens - Click "join meeting from browser" after waitint for it to eventually show me that option - I'm in the meeting! 3 clicks Number of clicks from a Google Meets email to a Zoom call: - Click the Link - I'm in the meeting! 1 click.

Apocryphon 4y ago

Offices tend to have conference rooms and other places for private calls.

jdminhbg 4y ago
I'm not saying it's completely impossible, I'm just saying it is, contra OP, more likely that if you are in an office and take a conference room every morning at 10 for 15 minutes that you will be caught, versus working two jobs from home.
- ghaff 4y ago
  That seems uncontroversial. Plus you probably can't separate the jobs on two different laptops to prevent accidental crossing of the streams--where one or more of those laptops may be managed by a company. Could someone get off with letting some side consulting work bleed into work hours? I'm sure in a lot of cases--though it would be easier at home. But I have to believe that, as in the case of relationships per upthread, working full-time in-person and remote jobs at the same time must start looking to people like something is odd here.