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I have built a couple of dual stack Kubernetes clusters already and they work much better to be honest. Most of the problems are solved and especially for node

I have built a couple of dual stack Kubernetes clusters already and they work much better to be honest. Most of the problems are solved and especially for node-based-ranges it works really well. Even in ipv6 only mode calico will manage amazingly and so do my OpenWRT routers. HOWEVER, My ISP regularly messes up with its ipv6 routing (deutsche Telekom (so as big as it can get for me) and if that's not the problem, the mesh networks on my (current gen) fritz networking equipment (very widely used in de) eats itself and sometimes just routes my traffic to nirvana. This is especially bad with online gaming services like xbox live, who for the love of themselves don't have a fallback to ipv4 implemented, once ipv6 drops. "i have an ipv6 so I'm gonna use it no matter what". Therefore I have dual stack vpns hooked up to my office network which connect to the datacenters I am using. My private network is ipv4 and sadly will remain like that for a while.

martinald 4y ago
Yeah I found the same on Hyperoptic in London. Works fine 99.9% of the time, but occasionally ipv6 drops until I restart the router/restart the WAN connection. Which of course I barely ever notice because most stuff switches back to ipv4. I think unless we start seeing ipv6-only stuff this will be the case, there's really no incentive for a lot of testing/debugging on at least consumer ipv6 connections until stuff actually breaks. Would be cool if Google added a 'ipv4' warning to Chrome similar to how they do with HTTPS (maybe not as strong though). That would drive a lot of adoption.
- miyuru 4y ago
  > Would be cool if Google added a 'ipv4' warning to Chrome similar to how they do with HTTPS (maybe not as strong though). That would drive a lot of adoption. You can kinda already do this by setting search to ipv6.google.com Images search does not work on that domain, looks like the new Google devs don't know about it.
cooljacob204 4y ago
> My ISP regularly messes up with its ipv6 routing Can you expand on this? I recently upgraded my network to support ipv6 but a big concern I have is what if they (Verizon Fios) change my assigned block? How can I make sure my PI hole and server has the same static IP address?
- ripdog 4y ago
  In that situation, don't connect to your pi hole using its GUA (global address, starting with 2), connect with it's ULA (link-local address, starting with f). Link local addresses are not routed outside your LAN, so they don't change when your ISP changes your prefix.
xnyanta 4y ago
I got so fed up with IPv6 being either straight up unavailable or being deployed in a botched fashion by residential ISPs in my area in the last 10+ years that I picked up an ASN and a /44 last year. I advertise it from a VM on Vultr in a datacenter close to home and the experience is just amazing. I also got fed up with people discriminating against Hurricane Electric's tunnel broker (streaming services, etc) so now I just have my own tunnel broker. It's really great to have my own addresses, use them in my kubernetes clusters (via calico and cilium) and have my homelab directly advertised to the internet, knowing I will never need to re-number. Networking is a helluva drug
- heybrendan 4y ago
  This is super interesting. If you don't mind, can you expand on: - What was involved with picking up the ASN and the IPv6 block of addresses (process, bureaucracy, initial and ongoing costs)? - What networking plumbing is involved in being able to have homelab resources advertised to the internet? I'm not an expert in this area, but I'd very much welcome the hard work that comes with reproducing such a setup. Thanks.

martinald 4y ago

Yeah I found the same on Hyperoptic in London. Works fine 99.9% of the time, but occasionally ipv6 drops until I restart the router/restart the WAN connection. Which of course I barely ever notice because most stuff switches back to ipv4. I think unless we start seeing ipv6-only stuff this will be the case, there's really no incentive for a lot of testing/debugging on at least consumer ipv6 connections until stuff actually breaks. Would be cool if Google added a 'ipv4' warning to Chrome similar to how they do with HTTPS (maybe not as strong though). That would drive a lot of adoption.

miyuru 4y ago
> Would be cool if Google added a 'ipv4' warning to Chrome similar to how they do with HTTPS (maybe not as strong though). That would drive a lot of adoption. You can kinda already do this by setting search to ipv6.google.com Images search does not work on that domain, looks like the new Google devs don't know about it.

cooljacob204 4y ago

> My ISP regularly messes up with its ipv6 routing Can you expand on this? I recently upgraded my network to support ipv6 but a big concern I have is what if they (Verizon Fios) change my assigned block? How can I make sure my PI hole and server has the same static IP address?

ripdog 4y ago
In that situation, don't connect to your pi hole using its GUA (global address, starting with 2), connect with it's ULA (link-local address, starting with f). Link local addresses are not routed outside your LAN, so they don't change when your ISP changes your prefix.

xnyanta 4y ago

I got so fed up with IPv6 being either straight up unavailable or being deployed in a botched fashion by residential ISPs in my area in the last 10+ years that I picked up an ASN and a /44 last year. I advertise it from a VM on Vultr in a datacenter close to home and the experience is just amazing. I also got fed up with people discriminating against Hurricane Electric's tunnel broker (streaming services, etc) so now I just have my own tunnel broker. It's really great to have my own addresses, use them in my kubernetes clusters (via calico and cilium) and have my homelab directly advertised to the internet, knowing I will never need to re-number. Networking is a helluva drug

heybrendan 4y ago
This is super interesting. If you don't mind, can you expand on: - What was involved with picking up the ASN and the IPv6 block of addresses (process, bureaucracy, initial and ongoing costs)? - What networking plumbing is involved in being able to have homelab resources advertised to the internet? I'm not an expert in this area, but I'd very much welcome the hard work that comes with reproducing such a setup. Thanks.