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"For the purpose of this report, Hired examined software engineering candidate interview requests (IVR) and salary data from January 2021 through December 2022

"For the purpose of this report, Hired examined software engineering candidate interview requests (IVR) and salary data from January 2021 through December 2022 inclusive. The data included reflects over 68,500 candidates and 494,000 interview requests between companies and software engineers on Hired during this time period." Then, I think, the numbers reflect only candidates and companies that use Hired, as opposed to the industry as a whole. I wonder how many folks land jobs through Hired?

Our_Benefactors 4y ago
I have had high callback rates from working with hired, as well as multi year engagement resulting from an offer through hired. These were with companies doing interesting work I would have never known I was a match for otherwise. You also need to do your own due diligence on the company, because hired is structured to take as little time commitment from their recruiters as possible (this is actually a good thing because it forces the companies on the website to be upfront).
mrj 4y ago
Yeah there does appear to be bias in their sample since Ruby on Rails was their most in-demand skill. Not to knock it or anything, but it hardly seems like the number one skill industry wide.
- Eumenes 4y ago
  I think its naïve to rank skills by a framework or library, but we're talking about a hiring platform website, used by keyword driven recruiters. If they were being more honest and accurate, lumping Django/Node would seem more appropriate. JVM/Java + C#/MSFT seems like it could stand on its own as well.
neon_electro 4y ago
I have two experiences of using Hired to try to land jobs; I got interview requests, I interviewed, but I never found a role I was committed enough to or qualified enough for. Both times I came out without any offers. Definitely have my own share of the blame here, but I don't think Hired put a ton of high quality leads on my radar for the effort I put in.
atomicnumber3 4y ago
Especially when it's well-known that many engineers, especially senior, are essentially never "on the market". They work through their networks, leveraging referrals, and will frequently vanish from one job and appear in another without submitting a resume, contacting a recruiter, or touching anything on linkedin/gh/etc. Seems like that alone would put a big skew on results. It's kind of like the "r/cscareerquestions" effect. There's literally only 3 people posting: hapless anxious innocent newbies/newgrads, low-marketability folks who are struggling to find a position, and people who get off on trolling/doomposting and otherwise feeding off the despair of the other two crowds. The result being a forum that perpetually makes it seem impossible to get hired as a software engineer (even during the covid hiring spree!).
- tayo42 4y ago
  anecdotally, i know more people that struggle with the hiring process then these extroverted super connected senior developers that just hop job from job that apparently exist. from the group of people i keep in contact with, i think only one is doing something like that. also the people we hired went through application pipelines and weren't just showing up after being recommended
  - johnzabroski 4y ago
    I know quite a few developers who have a knack for following market trends and jumping on the rocket ship before it is about to launch. It's actually not that hard if you think about what filter you would apply. The one hard part is finding recruiters who specialize in placing people at these companies, and, of course, passing the interview (or at least enough success that the interviewer doesn't tell the recruiter you are a poor quality candidate).
- eulers_secret 4y ago
  This isn’t my experience. I’ve interviewed many seniors in my time, and also gone on many interviews as a senior. Networks fail people all the time. Mine failed me because I was at one company for a decade(switching teams), and my entire network still works there. I don’t want to go back, so I essentially have no network. We hired an architect who’s entire network was still at IBM, similar to me. There’s other possible failure modes, it happens quite a bit IME.

Our_Benefactors 4y ago

I have had high callback rates from working with hired, as well as multi year engagement resulting from an offer through hired. These were with companies doing interesting work I would have never known I was a match for otherwise. You also need to do your own due diligence on the company, because hired is structured to take as little time commitment from their recruiters as possible (this is actually a good thing because it forces the companies on the website to be upfront).

mrj 4y ago

Yeah there does appear to be bias in their sample since Ruby on Rails was their most in-demand skill. Not to knock it or anything, but it hardly seems like the number one skill industry wide.

Eumenes 4y ago
I think its naïve to rank skills by a framework or library, but we're talking about a hiring platform website, used by keyword driven recruiters. If they were being more honest and accurate, lumping Django/Node would seem more appropriate. JVM/Java + C#/MSFT seems like it could stand on its own as well.

neon_electro 4y ago

I have two experiences of using Hired to try to land jobs; I got interview requests, I interviewed, but I never found a role I was committed enough to or qualified enough for. Both times I came out without any offers. Definitely have my own share of the blame here, but I don't think Hired put a ton of high quality leads on my radar for the effort I put in.

atomicnumber3 4y ago

Especially when it's well-known that many engineers, especially senior, are essentially never "on the market". They work through their networks, leveraging referrals, and will frequently vanish from one job and appear in another without submitting a resume, contacting a recruiter, or touching anything on linkedin/gh/etc. Seems like that alone would put a big skew on results. It's kind of like the "r/cscareerquestions" effect. There's literally only 3 people posting: hapless anxious innocent newbies/newgrads, low-marketability folks who are struggling to find a position, and people who get off on trolling/doomposting and otherwise feeding off the despair of the other two crowds. The result being a forum that perpetually makes it seem impossible to get hired as a software engineer (even during the covid hiring spree!).

tayo42 4y ago
anecdotally, i know more people that struggle with the hiring process then these extroverted super connected senior developers that just hop job from job that apparently exist. from the group of people i keep in contact with, i think only one is doing something like that. also the people we hired went through application pipelines and weren't just showing up after being recommended
- johnzabroski 4y ago
  I know quite a few developers who have a knack for following market trends and jumping on the rocket ship before it is about to launch. It's actually not that hard if you think about what filter you would apply. The one hard part is finding recruiters who specialize in placing people at these companies, and, of course, passing the interview (or at least enough success that the interviewer doesn't tell the recruiter you are a poor quality candidate).
eulers_secret 4y ago
This isn’t my experience. I’ve interviewed many seniors in my time, and also gone on many interviews as a senior. Networks fail people all the time. Mine failed me because I was at one company for a decade(switching teams), and my entire network still works there. I don’t want to go back, so I essentially have no network. We hired an architect who’s entire network was still at IBM, similar to me. There’s other possible failure modes, it happens quite a bit IME.