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Side note, while I don’t know the trends in Ibiza, in the USA pants marketed to men usually have pockets that can hold a smartphone (and often wallet too, thoug

Side note, while I don’t know the trends in Ibiza, in the USA pants marketed to men usually have pockets that can hold a smartphone (and often wallet too, though mine gets a separate pocket). It’s not really a matter of personal size so the unsubtle body-shaming “I don’t know how big you are, but” is an irrelevant ad-hominem here, which weakens your comment. There’s no need to bring yourself so low in an internet conversation about buttons and sliders.

peoplefromibiza 4y ago
Thanks for the clarification but I meant big as in a big person (think about Shaquille O'Neal), not a fat person. I'm not a native English speaker, sorry, big for me means big as per dictionary definition, not large or fat or "you should be ashamed of your body". Anyway, a search for "jeans pockets smartphone" produces the following results, which is exactly what I meant, pants here have the same pocket size you can see in the following pictures. https://previews.123rf.com/images/bacho12345/bacho123451508/bacho12345150800014/43131165-big-white-smart-mobile-phone-in-jeans-pocket.jpg https://previews.123rf.com/images/bacho12345/bacho123451508/... https://previews.123rf.com/images/wisawa222/wisawa2221707/wisawa222170700009/82195382-cell-phone-in-jeans-pocket-on-white-background-.jpg https://previews.123rf.com/images/wisawa222/wisawa2221707/wi... https://previews.123rf.com/images/aquapictures/aquapictures1605/aquapictures160500103/65478904-closeup-on-cell-phone-in-back-pocket-of-female-jeans.jpg https://previews.123rf.com/images/aquapictures/aquapictures1... https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_fill,w_1440,ar_16:9,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/shape/cover/sport/539787-istock-478357836-a499b6eec31e0d7306750adbbb9f08c7.jpg https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_fill,w_144...
- b112 4y ago
  No offense at the 'big' thing here, I'm 190cm. But amusingly, I have grey hair, which means I am, by the laws of the universe, no longer allowed to wear jeans. I think looser pants are why ginormous phones fit, although I am sure upthread's comment about many pants being tailored differently now, is probably true too. My own usage case is, as with anyone, unique. The real problem is, singular thought in design. Look at chrome, and how google removed pinch zoom and reflow, to "force" websites to update for mobile. Thanks google, clearly you could care less about older eyes. About older websites.
  - gowld 4y ago
    > I have grey hair, which means I am, by the laws of the universe, no longer allowed to wear jeans Stop mentally enslaving yourself.
    - retrac 4y ago
      Taking a joke too seriously is a form of mental self-enslavement.
  - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
    > No offense at the 'big' thing here, I'm 190cm. But amusingly, I have grey hair, which means I am, by the laws of the universe, no longer allowed to wear jeans. ehehe I have grey hair and grey beard too. I still wear jeans when nobody watches, but in all honesty when I wear classic suit pants to go to the office, the pockets are even smaller than the jeans ones, so my phone stays in the pocket of my (suit) jacket. My issue with swiping is that when phones fitted entirely in one hand, for example the Samsung Galaxy SII or the iPhone 4, swiping made sense, everything was close enough and you never lost grip. Now that they are so big, there's a lot of lateral movement to cover and it's becoming to be nonsensical. I usually drop my phone 2/3 times a day because of needing to swipe, it never happened so often before. I have also started to suffer from joint pain on my right thumb due to phone gestures. I've watched my parents trying to do it with both hands - with one hand they keep the phone, with the other hand they try to swipe-up to answer using their index finger - and the movement 90% of the time falls too short and the swipe fails. It's painful to watch, I think we should rethink gestures or phones' dimensions.
    - b112 4y ago
      Well, the swipe width thing is a different conversation. I bet it is far worse for children, which makes me think... For kids, a kid sized phone would seemingly work better. 1/3 the size, weight, and theoretically with a smaller font and display.

peoplefromibiza 4y ago

Thanks for the clarification but I meant big as in a big person (think about Shaquille O'Neal), not a fat person. I'm not a native English speaker, sorry, big for me means big as per dictionary definition, not large or fat or "you should be ashamed of your body". Anyway, a search for "jeans pockets smartphone" produces the following results, which is exactly what I meant, pants here have the same pocket size you can see in the following pictures. https://previews.123rf.com/images/bacho12345/bacho123451508/bacho12345150800014/43131165-big-white-smart-mobile-phone-in-jeans-pocket.jpg https://previews.123rf.com/images/bacho12345/bacho123451508/... https://previews.123rf.com/images/wisawa222/wisawa2221707/wisawa222170700009/82195382-cell-phone-in-jeans-pocket-on-white-background-.jpg https://previews.123rf.com/images/wisawa222/wisawa2221707/wi... https://previews.123rf.com/images/aquapictures/aquapictures1605/aquapictures160500103/65478904-closeup-on-cell-phone-in-back-pocket-of-female-jeans.jpg https://previews.123rf.com/images/aquapictures/aquapictures1... https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_fill,w_1440,ar_16:9,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/shape/cover/sport/539787-istock-478357836-a499b6eec31e0d7306750adbbb9f08c7.jpg https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_fill,w_144...

b112 4y ago
No offense at the 'big' thing here, I'm 190cm. But amusingly, I have grey hair, which means I am, by the laws of the universe, no longer allowed to wear jeans. I think looser pants are why ginormous phones fit, although I am sure upthread's comment about many pants being tailored differently now, is probably true too. My own usage case is, as with anyone, unique. The real problem is, singular thought in design. Look at chrome, and how google removed pinch zoom and reflow, to "force" websites to update for mobile. Thanks google, clearly you could care less about older eyes. About older websites.
- gowld 4y ago
  > I have grey hair, which means I am, by the laws of the universe, no longer allowed to wear jeans Stop mentally enslaving yourself.
  - retrac 4y ago
    Taking a joke too seriously is a form of mental self-enslavement.
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  > No offense at the 'big' thing here, I'm 190cm. But amusingly, I have grey hair, which means I am, by the laws of the universe, no longer allowed to wear jeans. ehehe I have grey hair and grey beard too. I still wear jeans when nobody watches, but in all honesty when I wear classic suit pants to go to the office, the pockets are even smaller than the jeans ones, so my phone stays in the pocket of my (suit) jacket. My issue with swiping is that when phones fitted entirely in one hand, for example the Samsung Galaxy SII or the iPhone 4, swiping made sense, everything was close enough and you never lost grip. Now that they are so big, there's a lot of lateral movement to cover and it's becoming to be nonsensical. I usually drop my phone 2/3 times a day because of needing to swipe, it never happened so often before. I have also started to suffer from joint pain on my right thumb due to phone gestures. I've watched my parents trying to do it with both hands - with one hand they keep the phone, with the other hand they try to swipe-up to answer using their index finger - and the movement 90% of the time falls too short and the swipe fails. It's painful to watch, I think we should rethink gestures or phones' dimensions.
  - b112 4y ago
    Well, the swipe width thing is a different conversation. I bet it is far worse for children, which makes me think... For kids, a kid sized phone would seemingly work better. 1/3 the size, weight, and theoretically with a smaller font and display.