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Yeah I always get INTP and I get (secretly, internally) impatient with people who can't keep up. Hell I get impatient with myself if I'm not thinking fast enoug

by corobo 4y ago

Yeah I always get INTP and I get (secretly, internally) impatient with people who can't keep up. Hell I get impatient with myself if I'm not thinking fast enough. Maybe it's INTP with an ADHD modifier? Haha Can't stand it when people run off into the weeds on examples too. Just.. it's an example. Please just get the concept of examples. They are to get us on the same context. If you can correct my example you can understand what I'm saying. We're good. Please continue with the original thought as if I'd given a good example. Go go go go go! No, dammit, don't complain I'm being too impatient or hard on myself either, you're wasting time! Go go go! Of course outwardly this goes through a don't be a jerk filter. Impatience is my problem. E: Should clarify this is only for skillset relevant conversations. You can take as long as you like on spiritual or philosophical thoughts. I just did another test, idk can they change? INTP-T again E2: I should correct myself actually. If I'm popping back to make these edits half an hour and an hour after I posted the original comment then surely I'm thinking fast (initial comment) and also thinking slow (oh wait no, go back to that one thought, add this too). Hey me, maybe that bit about examples is it's own blog post pal? It went a bit into the weeds itself there. Was it relevant or just on your mind? If you'd have thought slower you might not have bothered typing that bit. I'll have to reflect on this one :)

Felminor 4y ago
ADHS yes here too :)
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abakker 4y ago
The thing about these scales is that they are actually numeric. (And not real good, but that’s another story.) I’m an INTP, but really close to the middle on the I and the N. It changes things relative to some coworkers who are much more I than me. Some people are introverts like “I just want to be alone to work and recharge”. I’m an introvert like, “ I’ll do this on my own, but if you want to help, I’m happy to have you along.” Social situations don’t really stress me out, but I don’t do well in group conversations.
- corobo 4y ago
  On the random site I just used it did have a "turbulent" or sense of urgency result, which was a hair off 100%. Maybe that's the bar that determines fast or slow thinkers? Assertive vs Turbulent was the scale. As an on again off again anxious mess, maybe I think fast so I can have multiple answers ready in case my first isn't good enough? Maybe my thinking will slow down over time (in therapy, anxiety and self-confidence are things I'm working on). It's a hypothesis anyway. If that is the case then at the extreme ends fast thinkers within INTP don't believe in themselves and slow thinkers do. Fast thinkers are cups half empty (and will likely fall on the floor if I'm not careful) people and slow thinkers are cups can be refilled later people. Both are logical, just different levels of confidence. It kinda checks out now I've typed it out haha. It does sort of imply there's more than 16 types of people, but that's for Myers and Briggs to deal with.
  - abakker 4y ago
    I think the whole fast vs slow thinking is also a bit tied up with kind of like "raw intelligence" vs "trained skill". I think there are some people who are really really smart and fast thinkers, and some people who are less smart and slower. But the thing is, being smart doesn't mean being right. Especially as things get complicated where methodology or background research become critical components of getting the right answers. Knowledge is probably more important than intelligence in the application of knowledge. Intelligence may be more important in the discovery of knowledge, and even then, it require the sufficient patience to acquire prerequisite knowledge in the first place. I'm not sure that one is better than the other, but I suspect there is a lot of frustration embedded in mismatching what you want to be doing vs what you are good at.
    - corobo 4y ago
      Honestly my comment is moot I think I realised I was coming back to the thread to edit in new thoughts. This means I do both fast thinking (initial comment) and slow thinking (returning to add something else) I no longer believe I'm solely a fast thinker, I just wasn't giving myself credit for the slow because I'm impatient af
JohnBooty 4y ago
I read this and I identify with it, and I also read tales from slower thinkers and I identify with that too. Really depends on the situation. I wish there was more room in society for both types of thinking.
- corobo 4y ago
  I think there's a book that goes into the two "Thinking, Fast and Slow" by Daniel Kahnmeman. I've yet to read it but it's on the list. E: your comment made me realise I do both too. For example coming back to HN to add to comments I posted half an hour ago :-)

by corobo 4y ago

Felminor 4y ago

ADHS yes here too :)

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abakker 4y ago

The thing about these scales is that they are actually numeric. (And not real good, but that’s another story.) I’m an INTP, but really close to the middle on the I and the N. It changes things relative to some coworkers who are much more I than me. Some people are introverts like “I just want to be alone to work and recharge”. I’m an introvert like, “ I’ll do this on my own, but if you want to help, I’m happy to have you along.” Social situations don’t really stress me out, but I don’t do well in group conversations.

corobo 4y ago
On the random site I just used it did have a "turbulent" or sense of urgency result, which was a hair off 100%. Maybe that's the bar that determines fast or slow thinkers? Assertive vs Turbulent was the scale. As an on again off again anxious mess, maybe I think fast so I can have multiple answers ready in case my first isn't good enough? Maybe my thinking will slow down over time (in therapy, anxiety and self-confidence are things I'm working on). It's a hypothesis anyway. If that is the case then at the extreme ends fast thinkers within INTP don't believe in themselves and slow thinkers do. Fast thinkers are cups half empty (and will likely fall on the floor if I'm not careful) people and slow thinkers are cups can be refilled later people. Both are logical, just different levels of confidence. It kinda checks out now I've typed it out haha. It does sort of imply there's more than 16 types of people, but that's for Myers and Briggs to deal with.
- abakker 4y ago
  I think the whole fast vs slow thinking is also a bit tied up with kind of like "raw intelligence" vs "trained skill". I think there are some people who are really really smart and fast thinkers, and some people who are less smart and slower. But the thing is, being smart doesn't mean being right. Especially as things get complicated where methodology or background research become critical components of getting the right answers. Knowledge is probably more important than intelligence in the application of knowledge. Intelligence may be more important in the discovery of knowledge, and even then, it require the sufficient patience to acquire prerequisite knowledge in the first place. I'm not sure that one is better than the other, but I suspect there is a lot of frustration embedded in mismatching what you want to be doing vs what you are good at.
  - corobo 4y ago
    Honestly my comment is moot I think I realised I was coming back to the thread to edit in new thoughts. This means I do both fast thinking (initial comment) and slow thinking (returning to add something else) I no longer believe I'm solely a fast thinker, I just wasn't giving myself credit for the slow because I'm impatient af

JohnBooty 4y ago

I read this and I identify with it, and I also read tales from slower thinkers and I identify with that too. Really depends on the situation. I wish there was more room in society for both types of thinking.

corobo 4y ago
I think there's a book that goes into the two "Thinking, Fast and Slow" by Daniel Kahnmeman. I've yet to read it but it's on the list. E: your comment made me realise I do both too. For example coming back to HN to add to comments I posted half an hour ago :-)