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Well, in fact that's not the price for an RPi 4 4G, that I think it's around 70-80. But the low stock is used by some people to list insane prices. Also, Netwo

Well, in fact that's not the price for an RPi 4 4G, that I think it's around 70-80. But the low stock is used by some people to list insane prices. Also, NetworkManager supports even WPA3 as a client, but I don't think it's the best option for building a router. It's better suited for a regular client. Anyway, if you were building a router in a small board like the RPi4, I'd recommend you to use OpenWRT instead of Debian. Also, if you want a "more standard" distro, just use Armbian. It's just plain Debian with ARM support. Yes, the RPi is scarce, expensive and not super powerful, but also its target is not being a wireless router at all: only one interface, no external antennas... It's the wrong board for that. Get a GL.iNET board with OpenWRT or a x86 multi interface miniPC for that.

t344344 4y ago
> low stock is used by some people to list insane prices Another reason not to use it! > NetworkManager supports even WPA3 I used it as a hotspot. Armbian has some weird obsolete NetworkManager, that does not work with WPA2. OpenWRD does not support other functions I need. And I did not use buildin networking managment, because it keept switching network interface names (multiple WIFI and LAN cards over USB). I can bind NetworkManager config to MAC and skip interface names completely. > It's the wrong board for that. It is the most basic task for Linux computer...
- horsawlarway 4y ago
  > [routing] is the most basic task for Linux computer... WTF?
- tecleandor 4y ago
  > Another reason not to use it! Perfectly valid reason! I in fact am buying Orange Pi SBCs this days > I used it as a hotspot. Armbian has some weird obsolete NetworkManager, that does not work with WPA2. OpenWRD does not support other functions I need. I don't follow that. Armbian has the same package versions as Debian. I just checked on an Armbian Bullseye I have in an Armv7 board and it has support for WPA2 Personal, WPA2 Enterprise, and WPA3. If you want to keep a regular Linux distribution probably your best bet is using something like 'hostapd' > And I did not use buildin networking managment, because it keept switching network interface names (multiple WIFI and LAN cards over USB). I can bind NetworkManager config to MAC and skip interface names completely. You can set those names static easily with systemd. Create a file for every nic like '/etc/systemd/network/10-eth10.link' and fill it like: [Match] MACAddress=75:1a:d3:80:85:59 [Link] Name=eth10 And then update your initramfs: update-initramfs -u And ready! :) > It is the most basic task for Linux computer... Well, it depends for whom. Also, you need adequate software and hardware. About wireless, the chipset in an RPi4 is designed for clients, not APs, and its capabilities on having multiple clients are quite limited: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/3010 https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/3010 Routers like the Omnia Turris, Mikrotik, PC Engines... use specific mini PCIe cards that can be as expensive as a full Raspberry Pi 4, just for the wireless. https://www.discomp.eu/wireless-minipci-cards_c14501412.html https://www.discomp.eu/wireless-minipci-cards_c14501412.html
  - t344344 4y ago
    Armbian ads tons of configs and hacks to Debian. It really is not vanilla Debian.

t344344 4y ago

> low stock is used by some people to list insane prices Another reason not to use it! > NetworkManager supports even WPA3 I used it as a hotspot. Armbian has some weird obsolete NetworkManager, that does not work with WPA2. OpenWRD does not support other functions I need. And I did not use buildin networking managment, because it keept switching network interface names (multiple WIFI and LAN cards over USB). I can bind NetworkManager config to MAC and skip interface names completely. > It's the wrong board for that. It is the most basic task for Linux computer...

horsawlarway 4y ago
> [routing] is the most basic task for Linux computer... WTF?
tecleandor 4y ago
> Another reason not to use it! Perfectly valid reason! I in fact am buying Orange Pi SBCs this days > I used it as a hotspot. Armbian has some weird obsolete NetworkManager, that does not work with WPA2. OpenWRD does not support other functions I need. I don't follow that. Armbian has the same package versions as Debian. I just checked on an Armbian Bullseye I have in an Armv7 board and it has support for WPA2 Personal, WPA2 Enterprise, and WPA3. If you want to keep a regular Linux distribution probably your best bet is using something like 'hostapd' > And I did not use buildin networking managment, because it keept switching network interface names (multiple WIFI and LAN cards over USB). I can bind NetworkManager config to MAC and skip interface names completely. You can set those names static easily with systemd. Create a file for every nic like '/etc/systemd/network/10-eth10.link' and fill it like: [Match] MACAddress=75:1a:d3:80:85:59 [Link] Name=eth10 And then update your initramfs: update-initramfs -u And ready! :) > It is the most basic task for Linux computer... Well, it depends for whom. Also, you need adequate software and hardware. About wireless, the chipset in an RPi4 is designed for clients, not APs, and its capabilities on having multiple clients are quite limited: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/3010 https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/3010 Routers like the Omnia Turris, Mikrotik, PC Engines... use specific mini PCIe cards that can be as expensive as a full Raspberry Pi 4, just for the wireless. https://www.discomp.eu/wireless-minipci-cards_c14501412.html https://www.discomp.eu/wireless-minipci-cards_c14501412.html
- t344344 4y ago
  Armbian ads tons of configs and hacks to Debian. It really is not vanilla Debian.