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Part of this is because of tools like Discord which is not indexable by Google. We need something better than Discord for community discussions and support. R

Part of this is because of tools like Discord which is not indexable by Google. We need something better than Discord for community discussions and support. Reddit is indexable.

girvo 4y ago
Discord as the go-to community hub for things like programming languages makes a little bit sad, knowing it’s all ephemeral and locked up. At least the Nim team has a Matrix bridge I guess, so it’s a solvable problem somewhat. But I find joining yet another Discord group just obnoxious. I long for the async-only text forums of yore. I’m getting old, aren’t I.
- luckylion 4y ago
  It's very different content though, isn't it? I've never used Discord, but it's mostly chat as far as I understand, and I always found chat somewhat difficult to use for referencing later. You'll have topics shifting, multiple topics going on at once, everything being more informal (and people spending less time on finding the solution instead of jumping on Discord). I imagine it's harder to get useful content out of that vs forums where topics are pretty contained in threads and it's more formal so there's less noise and pretty much all posts are relevant to the topic. Maybe if forums had fancy apps for local display and reply etc, and you could sync them between servers, and it could be kind of decentralized. Someone should build something like that and come up with a good name. It would be a useful net of news. Just a thought!
- Double_a_92 4y ago
  How would you even index something like Discord? It's mostly a chat app, where discussions are casual and often mixed togheter with others... It's not like a forum where each post is at least a somewhat coherent thought written out properly.
  - polski-g 4y ago
    Discord should be publishing chat logs in HTML format, like how FreeNode did for their IRC logs.
    - Double_a_92 4y ago
      I would dislike that. Imagine if every single thing you say to your friends while being in a public space was recorded for everyone to see in the future... The point of a chat is to be ephemeral. Otherwise it would just be a forum with really bad and chaotic content.
      - postalrat 4y ago
        Archiving and indexing public IRC or Discord isn't the same as putting up microphones everywhere to listen to conversations between friends.
        Double_a_92 4y ago
        Why not? The microphones wouldn't be everywhere, just in specific places where people like to go to socialize. Say a study room at Uni for example... imagine all the "good knowledge" we are missing by not recording every single word students say at Uni and making it publicly searchable. Right? Even if you could always go to another Uni, it's still annoying and bad.

Part of this is because of tools like Discord which is not indexable by Google. We need something better than Discord for community discussions and support. Reddit is indexable.

girvo 4y ago

Discord as the go-to community hub for things like programming languages makes a little bit sad, knowing it’s all ephemeral and locked up. At least the Nim team has a Matrix bridge I guess, so it’s a solvable problem somewhat. But I find joining yet another Discord group just obnoxious. I long for the async-only text forums of yore. I’m getting old, aren’t I.

luckylion 4y ago
It's very different content though, isn't it? I've never used Discord, but it's mostly chat as far as I understand, and I always found chat somewhat difficult to use for referencing later. You'll have topics shifting, multiple topics going on at once, everything being more informal (and people spending less time on finding the solution instead of jumping on Discord). I imagine it's harder to get useful content out of that vs forums where topics are pretty contained in threads and it's more formal so there's less noise and pretty much all posts are relevant to the topic. Maybe if forums had fancy apps for local display and reply etc, and you could sync them between servers, and it could be kind of decentralized. Someone should build something like that and come up with a good name. It would be a useful net of news. Just a thought!
Double_a_92 4y ago
How would you even index something like Discord? It's mostly a chat app, where discussions are casual and often mixed togheter with others... It's not like a forum where each post is at least a somewhat coherent thought written out properly.
- polski-g 4y ago
  Discord should be publishing chat logs in HTML format, like how FreeNode did for their IRC logs.
  - Double_a_92 4y ago
    I would dislike that. Imagine if every single thing you say to your friends while being in a public space was recorded for everyone to see in the future... The point of a chat is to be ephemeral. Otherwise it would just be a forum with really bad and chaotic content.
    - postalrat 4y ago
      Archiving and indexing public IRC or Discord isn't the same as putting up microphones everywhere to listen to conversations between friends.
      - Double_a_92 4y ago
        Why not? The microphones wouldn't be everywhere, just in specific places where people like to go to socialize. Say a study room at Uni for example... imagine all the "good knowledge" we are missing by not recording every single word students say at Uni and making it publicly searchable. Right? Even if you could always go to another Uni, it's still annoying and bad.