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MBTI and things like INTP are 'definitions'. Trying to make business decisions on the basis of MBTI metrics, which is what it is often criticised for, is of co

MBTI and things like INTP are 'definitions'. Trying to make business decisions on the basis of MBTI metrics, which is what it is often criticised for, is of course misguided. But saying "MBTI is pseudoscience you cannot be INTP" makes as much sense as "Hair colour names are unscientific, so you can't identify as blond". Sure you can. It's a description. I wouldn't go ascribing intelligence on the basis of hair colour, but I wouldn't doubt you have a hair colour either. And if you've found commonalities / common experiences and like being with other blond people, that's fine too.

nemetroid 4y ago
The initial sentence of the original comment is the pseudoscientific part. > That's a typical INTP / type 5 enneagram brain wiring.
- thiago_fm 4y ago
  I love how on the internet, people make a big effort to criticize arguments and not show any evidence that AT LEAST, proves that their criticism makes sense. So here I ask you: given that Psychology is a social SCIENCE, also a part of STEM. And psychologists definitely use those tests, I was personally introduced to them by a psychologist that helped me with career coaching, recognized on his field with a bunch of papers. Now, please explain yourself: why is it a pseudoscience? I want proofs.
nicoburns 4y ago
The MBTI is descriptive. However, it claims to be descriptive of internal mental processes, which it posits to exist in a certain way (admittedly not everything interprets the MBTI this way, but IMO this is the only interpretation under which the MBTI is an interesting theory). I'm personally quite open to the idea that it's an accurate categorisation, but I do also think that it's an extroadinary claim that requires extroadinary justification. IMO saying "oh, it's just a description" because that evidence hasn't (yet) been found is a bit of a cop out.
flippinburgers 4y ago
Lets be real though. Nobody just stops at they are INTP. This is the kind of thing that corporate busybodies in HR - or something related - will use to evaluate people.

nemetroid 4y ago

The initial sentence of the original comment is the pseudoscientific part. > That's a typical INTP / type 5 enneagram brain wiring.

thiago_fm 4y ago
I love how on the internet, people make a big effort to criticize arguments and not show any evidence that AT LEAST, proves that their criticism makes sense. So here I ask you: given that Psychology is a social SCIENCE, also a part of STEM. And psychologists definitely use those tests, I was personally introduced to them by a psychologist that helped me with career coaching, recognized on his field with a bunch of papers. Now, please explain yourself: why is it a pseudoscience? I want proofs.

nicoburns 4y ago

The MBTI is descriptive. However, it claims to be descriptive of internal mental processes, which it posits to exist in a certain way (admittedly not everything interprets the MBTI this way, but IMO this is the only interpretation under which the MBTI is an interesting theory). I'm personally quite open to the idea that it's an accurate categorisation, but I do also think that it's an extroadinary claim that requires extroadinary justification. IMO saying "oh, it's just a description" because that evidence hasn't (yet) been found is a bit of a cop out.

flippinburgers 4y ago

Lets be real though. Nobody just stops at they are INTP. This is the kind of thing that corporate busybodies in HR - or something related - will use to evaluate people.