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> Yeah there was no reason to do this. How about making the site more usable to the 1 in 12 men^ with the most common form of colour blindness? (Never mind the

by OJFord 4y ago

> Yeah there was no reason to do this. How about making the site more usable to the 1 in 12 men^ with the most common form of colour blindness? (Never mind the fewer women, and the less common types.) ^https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/colour-vision-deficiency/ https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/colour-vision-deficiency/

ChemSpider 4y ago
But fixing this certainly would not require a complete and total redesign, or?
- OJFord 4y ago
  No it wouldn't, but it is what the article's about. Maybe the link was changed, but I'm only aware of the 'complete and total redesign' from comments here - I've used Wise occasionally but not since it was called TransferWise I don't think, so I wouldn't have known it was so recent.
tomp 4y ago
Isn't color blindness mixing up red & green? So why would a green design be better than a blue design? Naively, it's strictly worse.
- OJFord 4y ago
  You're right, that is naïve. 'Mixing up red & green' is one type (or a trait of some types), not the only one, and it doesn't mean say 'RGB' spans only two colours - it means some shades of red appear green and vice versa. It can also depend on context (red laser pointer invisible over a sea of green, say) and knowledge of the difference (presenter says something about their red laser pointer). There's no problem with using green, it's requiring it to contrast with red that's potentially problematic. For that reason it's probably a good general theme/background colour, even if that was the sole reason they were choosing one, because you'd be unlikely to want a contrasting red text colour over green background anyway.
  - tomp 4y ago
    Still doesn't explain why green would be better than blue. Don't all problems go away if you're just using blue?
    - lentil_soup 4y ago
      it's not about choosing only one colour, colour blindness and colour systems are more complicated than that. If you see the image under the "Double the tests, double the success" subtitle you'll see that the blue colours were actually failing a few of the APCA tests for colour contrast.
jalapenos 4y ago
By "this" I meant the totality of what they did, not certain bits among what they did that can be "think of the children"d (recognizing that I've now given someone the opportunity to interject with a bad faith interpretation of that). There's no basis for saying you have to get rid of a blue based color theme for a grotesque swamp green one, otherwise PayPal would be an accessibility pariah. I probably shouldn't be so sensitive to this, but it's part of the ongoing theme in the tech sector of snatching the lolipop from the baby. Give it, let them enjoy it for a while and get used to that, then spoil it.

by OJFord 4y ago

ChemSpider 4y ago

But fixing this certainly would not require a complete and total redesign, or?

OJFord 4y ago
No it wouldn't, but it is what the article's about. Maybe the link was changed, but I'm only aware of the 'complete and total redesign' from comments here - I've used Wise occasionally but not since it was called TransferWise I don't think, so I wouldn't have known it was so recent.

tomp 4y ago

Isn't color blindness mixing up red & green? So why would a green design be better than a blue design? Naively, it's strictly worse.

OJFord 4y ago
You're right, that is naïve. 'Mixing up red & green' is one type (or a trait of some types), not the only one, and it doesn't mean say 'RGB' spans only two colours - it means some shades of red appear green and vice versa. It can also depend on context (red laser pointer invisible over a sea of green, say) and knowledge of the difference (presenter says something about their red laser pointer). There's no problem with using green, it's requiring it to contrast with red that's potentially problematic. For that reason it's probably a good general theme/background colour, even if that was the sole reason they were choosing one, because you'd be unlikely to want a contrasting red text colour over green background anyway.
- tomp 4y ago
  Still doesn't explain why green would be better than blue. Don't all problems go away if you're just using blue?
  - lentil_soup 4y ago
    it's not about choosing only one colour, colour blindness and colour systems are more complicated than that. If you see the image under the "Double the tests, double the success" subtitle you'll see that the blue colours were actually failing a few of the APCA tests for colour contrast.

jalapenos 4y ago

By "this" I meant the totality of what they did, not certain bits among what they did that can be "think of the children"d (recognizing that I've now given someone the opportunity to interject with a bad faith interpretation of that). There's no basis for saying you have to get rid of a blue based color theme for a grotesque swamp green one, otherwise PayPal would be an accessibility pariah. I probably shouldn't be so sensitive to this, but it's part of the ongoing theme in the tech sector of snatching the lolipop from the baby. Give it, let them enjoy it for a while and get used to that, then spoil it.