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Yes! I've always found Microsoft's "welcome" messages in Windows installation to be extremely condescending and obnoxious (something they have an history of, ev

Yes! I've always found Microsoft's "welcome" messages in Windows installation to be extremely condescending and obnoxious (something they have an history of, even if unintentionally, going back to Clippy and beyond) On the other hand, Apple is guilty of sparse and vague error messages, or not giving any messages at all and letting things fail silently (like when AirDrop or Personal Hotspot magically just not work)

markdown 4y ago
Airdrop fails randomly at least 50% of the time I use it. And this experience is pretty consistent across over a decade of use with macbooks, mac minis, iphones (right up to the current 14) and tablets for an entire family. It's just garbage 50% of the time, and you end up trying random things... "restart your bluetooth" "ok that didn't work, now I'll restart mine." "ok still not working, lets both restart our bluetooth at the same time while chanting Jobs Jobs Jobs" "ok now let's try a restart of both devices." "fuck it, just use viber or email."
- Razengan 4y ago
  The debugger in me wants to think that it tries the local WiFi network first and something in your router or whatever messes it up but since the whole point is for Apple↔Apple communication, shouldn't the devices talk to each other directly first?
  - alex_suzuki 4y ago
    AFAIK they do, via Bluetooth to negotiate the connection. The actual payload is then transferred via WiFi.
politelemon 4y ago
I don't see it, it's sparse yes, but condescending and obnoxious is an excessive description. It might be that you're going in to Windows installation with a preset prejudice.
- chungy 4y ago
  That's always been my read. "Hello" "Step back while we take care of things for you" "Just a few minutes longer" I don't know the script verbatim, but it always read as very creepy and "This isn't your computer, it's Microsoft's." I would Ctrl-Alt-Delete just to have the pleasure of not seeing those messages.

markdown 4y ago

Airdrop fails randomly at least 50% of the time I use it. And this experience is pretty consistent across over a decade of use with macbooks, mac minis, iphones (right up to the current 14) and tablets for an entire family. It's just garbage 50% of the time, and you end up trying random things... "restart your bluetooth" "ok that didn't work, now I'll restart mine." "ok still not working, lets both restart our bluetooth at the same time while chanting Jobs Jobs Jobs" "ok now let's try a restart of both devices." "fuck it, just use viber or email."

Razengan 4y ago
The debugger in me wants to think that it tries the local WiFi network first and something in your router or whatever messes it up but since the whole point is for Apple↔Apple communication, shouldn't the devices talk to each other directly first?
- alex_suzuki 4y ago
  AFAIK they do, via Bluetooth to negotiate the connection. The actual payload is then transferred via WiFi.

politelemon 4y ago

I don't see it, it's sparse yes, but condescending and obnoxious is an excessive description. It might be that you're going in to Windows installation with a preset prejudice.

chungy 4y ago
That's always been my read. "Hello" "Step back while we take care of things for you" "Just a few minutes longer" I don't know the script verbatim, but it always read as very creepy and "This isn't your computer, it's Microsoft's." I would Ctrl-Alt-Delete just to have the pleasure of not seeing those messages.