> When you apply for a job as a doctor, they don't make you demonstrate surgical techniques. They take your board certification and ask you questions about what

> When you apply for a job as a doctor, they don't make you demonstrate surgical techniques. They take your board certification and ask you questions about what you've done in the past, things that went wrong and what you learned from that experience, and so on. They just assume you have the technical skills if you have the license. That's when you already worked as a surgeon in a reputable hospital. The same way, the technical screens (leetcode) is generally minimal for hires that have demonstrated a clear pattern of success at reputable companies. > We need an industry agreed-upon certification exam. We already mostly do: proper CS/Engineering degrees have a pretty good signal to noise ratio for hiring. Companies won't share their stats, but they know which schools and programs to target. Real engineering departments typically have job placement rates near 100%.