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I'm a government-should-leave-reasonable-people-the-hell-alone libertarian and a crypto-is-the-shit kind of guy. I also think warrants for searches of encrypte

I'm a government-should-leave-reasonable-people-the-hell-alone libertarian and a crypto-is-the-shit kind of guy. I also think warrants for searches of encrypted media are totally legit, and think the hair splitting over "typing in the password without anyone seeing it" vs. "being compelled to dictate the password" is completely pointless. 1. Not every vocal Utterance qualifies as Testimony, and the only person who gets to self-identify with an encryption key is Whitfield Diffie, and that rule only applies after 3 bong hits -OR- when he's doing Salvia with Ron Rivest as his sitter. Your weasel card-skimming ass ain't no Whitfield Diffie. 2. If you leak enough inculpatory evidence outside your encrypted hard drive, such that the police are now holding a warrant for searching inside your encrypted hard drive, the jig is up, son! Shouldn't have leaked all that other guilt-stench, and should have plausibly-deniably deleted that evidence.

ataggart 15y ago
Individuals should not be compelled to actively participate in their own prosecution. This is the spirit of the 5th Amendment.
- feralchimp 15y ago
  I appreciate that the adversarial method of trial has given rise to that and other threads of argument on behalf of defendants; I'm just not buying it in this case. It's an absurdly low bar for "active participation." He's not being asked to compute the AES decryption on 3x5 cards, or help the prosecution find the spot where the laptop is buried in the woods. When you're caught, you're forced to empty your pockets. If your 'pockets' include 1TB of incriminating data, that's your bad. Is one also actively participating in his own prosecution when he fails to resist arrest? How about when he agrees not to leave the country as a condition for posting bail? After all, he's had that vacation to [insert non-extradition country here] for months! Why should he change his plans to benefit the prosecution?

ataggart 15y ago

Individuals should not be compelled to actively participate in their own prosecution. This is the spirit of the 5th Amendment.

feralchimp 15y ago
I appreciate that the adversarial method of trial has given rise to that and other threads of argument on behalf of defendants; I'm just not buying it in this case. It's an absurdly low bar for "active participation." He's not being asked to compute the AES decryption on 3x5 cards, or help the prosecution find the spot where the laptop is buried in the woods. When you're caught, you're forced to empty your pockets. If your 'pockets' include 1TB of incriminating data, that's your bad. Is one also actively participating in his own prosecution when he fails to resist arrest? How about when he agrees not to leave the country as a condition for posting bail? After all, he's had that vacation to [insert non-extradition country here] for months! Why should he change his plans to benefit the prosecution?