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This is a mish mash of your own sort of misinformation. You mention politically left leaning, left and center media outlets yet completely leave out right wing

This is a mish mash of your own sort of misinformation. You mention politically left leaning, left and center media outlets yet completely leave out right wing outlets that are inarguably (at least from any logical and fact based perspective) and objectively more likely to spread falsehoods. You then toss out a salad of conspiracy tinged topics but lump things like this laptop topic with "masks work". The laptop thing is completely buried in conspiracy nonsense but one thing is certain, the only evidence for anything amiss comes from people with a very narrowly focused political agenda and that should raise doubts in anyone reasonable. Then you mention masks, as if there is something actually controversial there. There isn't (not to normal people, anyway). Health care professionals wear them for a reason and that reason isn't anything nefarious or political. Only the opposition to it comes from such a place. Even "you won't get covid if you take these shots" is silly and disingenuous. No one credible ever claimed that. They are a vaccine and they work by providing a degree of immunity. That's the gist of it. Always has been. Again, only people with an extreme political agenda claim otherwise.

TheBlight 4y ago
They're "conspiracy tinged" because the media claimed they were conspiracy theories but that all turned out to be a lie. Surgeons historically wear masks so they don't spit in open wounds. Plenty of credible people claimed if you took the shots you wouldn't get the virus. Unless you don't think the director of the CDC or President Biden are credible. I'm sorry if this is all upsetting to you.
pessimizer 4y ago
> objectively more likely to spread falsehoods. According to who? The "conspiracy tinged topics" that you describe so fairly were some of the most over-covered stories, were substantially wrong, and were known at the time of being printed that they were substantially wrong. > Then you mention masks, as if there is something actually controversial there. There is. While masks were thought by scientists in authority to slow transmission, Fauci told everyone that masks were not only useless but harmful, and that people shouldn't be wearing them. He later admitted to lying about that. That may not be controversial to you, but if you can't imagine or empathize with people being upset that the government was lying to them in order to manipulate their behavior, you aren't very imaginative or empathetic. > There isn't (not to normal people, anyway) I think that when many people who agree with you see bad faith argument like this, they start re-evaluating their position.

TheBlight 4y ago

They're "conspiracy tinged" because the media claimed they were conspiracy theories but that all turned out to be a lie. Surgeons historically wear masks so they don't spit in open wounds. Plenty of credible people claimed if you took the shots you wouldn't get the virus. Unless you don't think the director of the CDC or President Biden are credible. I'm sorry if this is all upsetting to you.

pessimizer 4y ago

> objectively more likely to spread falsehoods. According to who? The "conspiracy tinged topics" that you describe so fairly were some of the most over-covered stories, were substantially wrong, and were known at the time of being printed that they were substantially wrong. > Then you mention masks, as if there is something actually controversial there. There is. While masks were thought by scientists in authority to slow transmission, Fauci told everyone that masks were not only useless but harmful, and that people shouldn't be wearing them. He later admitted to lying about that. That may not be controversial to you, but if you can't imagine or empathize with people being upset that the government was lying to them in order to manipulate their behavior, you aren't very imaginative or empathetic. > There isn't (not to normal people, anyway) I think that when many people who agree with you see bad faith argument like this, they start re-evaluating their position.