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> If you cannot, within the time, demonstrate any ability, why should you be hired? It is more likely that the interview process is broken and missing the righ

> If you cannot, within the time, demonstrate any ability, why should you be hired? It is more likely that the interview process is broken and missing the right candidates, than it is that the interviewees are all mediocre. Most interviews are very non-inclusive the same way that the main track of school is becoming less and less inclusive. Different people need different methods to bring out the best in them.

hn_throwaway_99 4y ago
> It is more likely that the interview process is broken and missing the right candidates, than it is that the interviewees are all mediocre. Here's a thought experiment for you: if the interview process is so broken, why hasn't some tech company succeeded and become famous for an improved interview process, e.g. "Moneyball style"? My guess is because the process is not actually that broken, at least from the employer's perspective. I'm sure the interview process could be changed to be less regimented and more "inclusive", but that's also likely to reduce it's predictive power (i.e. you're more likely to make bad hires, and from a company's perspective that's almost always worse than missing out on a great hire).
- bobleeswagger 4y ago
  > if the interview process is so broken Hiring is guessing. Firing is knowing. If the hiring process worked, we wouldn't have layoffs like we do.
  - deathanatos 4y ago
    The layoffs that I have seen reported have been reported as being random. I've been involved now in 3 layoffs directly in my career, and 100% of them, the laid off individuals were laid off without regards to skill. The reporting in the media on layoffs happening elsewhere largely matches my experience. Sure, an argument exists around "you shouldn't've hired that many people", but that is different from an argument of "the hiring process can't discern good hires". The former is a management & long-term planning issue, the latter is how interviews are conducted.

hn_throwaway_99 4y ago

> It is more likely that the interview process is broken and missing the right candidates, than it is that the interviewees are all mediocre. Here's a thought experiment for you: if the interview process is so broken, why hasn't some tech company succeeded and become famous for an improved interview process, e.g. "Moneyball style"? My guess is because the process is not actually that broken, at least from the employer's perspective. I'm sure the interview process could be changed to be less regimented and more "inclusive", but that's also likely to reduce it's predictive power (i.e. you're more likely to make bad hires, and from a company's perspective that's almost always worse than missing out on a great hire).

bobleeswagger 4y ago
> if the interview process is so broken Hiring is guessing. Firing is knowing. If the hiring process worked, we wouldn't have layoffs like we do.
- deathanatos 4y ago
  The layoffs that I have seen reported have been reported as being random. I've been involved now in 3 layoffs directly in my career, and 100% of them, the laid off individuals were laid off without regards to skill. The reporting in the media on layoffs happening elsewhere largely matches my experience. Sure, an argument exists around "you shouldn't've hired that many people", but that is different from an argument of "the hiring process can't discern good hires". The former is a management & long-term planning issue, the latter is how interviews are conducted.