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> I wouldn't normally expect that to be an indication that something was made in the country containing that peak. You're probably American (where presumably t

> I wouldn't normally expect that to be an indication that something was made in the country containing that peak. You're probably American (where presumably these laws won't be applicable anyway, though I have no idea concerning US-Swiss Trade agreements). Europeans have been conditioned at least to some degree to associate chocolate with cows running around pristine alpine pastures to give the milk that makes Swiss chocolate so unique. You're correct that European geographic origin tends to be more of an issue in Europe than the US. Reason being: European law does not automatically apply in the US. Otoh, to call something "Tennessee Whiskey" it must have seen Tennessee at least briefly. I have to contradict your claim that the American interpretation is more "literal" though. "Champagne" is _literally_ the name of a region in France were a type of sparkling wine was invented.

jefftk 4y ago
> I have to contradict your claim that the American interpretation is more "literal" though. Maybe not the best phrasing, sorry! But I do think there's a difference here. When Americans buy "Colby" cheese we don't expect it to be from Colby WI, and we don't expect "Buffalo sauce" to be from Buffalo NY. Those regional names have become part of the name of the food. On the other hand, in "Tennessee Whiskey", "Wisconsin Cheddar", or "New Jersey Blueberries" the location is mostly just telling you where it was produced. No one is misled by "Colby cheese" from California, but they would be misled by "New Jersey Blueberries" from Massachusetts.
- a2800276 4y ago
  Seems a bit arbitrary :) Which it is in Europe as well, e g. the essence of Wiener Schnitzel is not that it's from Vienna, but that it's made from veal. Same preparation using pork may only be sold as Vienna-style. Come to think of it, Wiener sausages don't have to come from Vienna either...
  - jefftk 4y ago
    Ok, maybe it's not actually that different in the normal case!
  - generalizations 4y ago
    I think it's just a question of how the popular parlance evolves. Band-aids aren't just made by the one company anymore, earlier I "googled" something using duck duck go, and when I get sick I usually buy generic kleenex at the store. I'll buy the store brands of colby cheese and muenster cheese, but "New Jersey Blueberries" are still a niche NJ product.
    - a2800276 4y ago
      This certainly plays into it. From my understanding, part of "owning" a brand is actively protecting it from generifying (generification? ... keeping the brand name from turning into a generic designation). If a term becomes synonymous with a class of product, it's no worthy of trademark protection. That's why companies are fairly protective of their brand names and insist that you use phrasing like "Scotch Brand adhesive tape" and avoid using the verb "to google". Terms like "Escalator" and "Zipper" fall under that category. On the other hand, even though you may think "Kleenex" is a generic term, good look trying to sell facial tissues under that moniker.
  - kerng 4y ago
    Funny thing, in Vienna they call it Frankfurter (sausage).
- benj111 4y ago
  >Buffalo sauce Yes because it's made from buffalos.
  - musicale 4y ago
    I think you're confusing it with baby oil, which is gently squeezed from very oily babies. Buffalo sauce is actually the sauce which you put on buffalo wings, which by law must come from winged bison.
    - justinclift 4y ago
      > gently squeezed from very oily babies. Oh. I'd been under the impression they use a very large garlic press style thing instead. Sounds like it's a non-destructive measure after all? They should really put that info on the bottles. :) [/s if that's not obvious]
      - benj111 4y ago
        Extra virgin baby oil comes from gently squeezing. This is the only one aproved by peta Virgin baby oil is extracted using a press. Bog standard baby oil basically uses a blender, and then a centrifuge to get the last of the oil out. Fun fact Johnson and Johnson is so called because it only used boys, under the mistaken belief that girl oil may make boys weak. Obviously in today's enlightened age such sexism is a thing of the past.
benj111 4y ago
I'm from Europe and I wouldn't expect my Neapolitan ice-cream to come from Naples. I doubt the French expect their creme anglais to come from England. I don't think Germans expect their hamburgers to come from hamburg

jefftk 4y ago

> I have to contradict your claim that the American interpretation is more "literal" though. Maybe not the best phrasing, sorry! But I do think there's a difference here. When Americans buy "Colby" cheese we don't expect it to be from Colby WI, and we don't expect "Buffalo sauce" to be from Buffalo NY. Those regional names have become part of the name of the food. On the other hand, in "Tennessee Whiskey", "Wisconsin Cheddar", or "New Jersey Blueberries" the location is mostly just telling you where it was produced. No one is misled by "Colby cheese" from California, but they would be misled by "New Jersey Blueberries" from Massachusetts.

a2800276 4y ago
Seems a bit arbitrary :) Which it is in Europe as well, e g. the essence of Wiener Schnitzel is not that it's from Vienna, but that it's made from veal. Same preparation using pork may only be sold as Vienna-style. Come to think of it, Wiener sausages don't have to come from Vienna either...
- jefftk 4y ago
  Ok, maybe it's not actually that different in the normal case!
- generalizations 4y ago
  I think it's just a question of how the popular parlance evolves. Band-aids aren't just made by the one company anymore, earlier I "googled" something using duck duck go, and when I get sick I usually buy generic kleenex at the store. I'll buy the store brands of colby cheese and muenster cheese, but "New Jersey Blueberries" are still a niche NJ product.
  - a2800276 4y ago
    This certainly plays into it. From my understanding, part of "owning" a brand is actively protecting it from generifying (generification? ... keeping the brand name from turning into a generic designation). If a term becomes synonymous with a class of product, it's no worthy of trademark protection. That's why companies are fairly protective of their brand names and insist that you use phrasing like "Scotch Brand adhesive tape" and avoid using the verb "to google". Terms like "Escalator" and "Zipper" fall under that category. On the other hand, even though you may think "Kleenex" is a generic term, good look trying to sell facial tissues under that moniker.
- kerng 4y ago
  Funny thing, in Vienna they call it Frankfurter (sausage).
benj111 4y ago
>Buffalo sauce Yes because it's made from buffalos.
- musicale 4y ago
  I think you're confusing it with baby oil, which is gently squeezed from very oily babies. Buffalo sauce is actually the sauce which you put on buffalo wings, which by law must come from winged bison.
  - justinclift 4y ago
    > gently squeezed from very oily babies. Oh. I'd been under the impression they use a very large garlic press style thing instead. Sounds like it's a non-destructive measure after all? They should really put that info on the bottles. :) [/s if that's not obvious]
    - benj111 4y ago
      Extra virgin baby oil comes from gently squeezing. This is the only one aproved by peta Virgin baby oil is extracted using a press. Bog standard baby oil basically uses a blender, and then a centrifuge to get the last of the oil out. Fun fact Johnson and Johnson is so called because it only used boys, under the mistaken belief that girl oil may make boys weak. Obviously in today's enlightened age such sexism is a thing of the past.

benj111 4y ago

I'm from Europe and I wouldn't expect my Neapolitan ice-cream to come from Naples. I doubt the French expect their creme anglais to come from England. I don't think Germans expect their hamburgers to come from hamburg